Druid Animal Companions & Armor


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So I came across a discussion while going through the archives that rather confused me. The people on there claimed that animal companions had an extension of the druid vows and giving them barding was cheesy and should screw up the druid's casting. They claimed that it was an oversight in RAW and was never RAI

I went to check the animal companions and guess what I found? Heavy Armor proficiency. Has paizo done an errata on this lately or something because last time I checked, short of getting them dragonscale armor, all heavy armor is metal.

That means that them wearing heavy armor including metal should be RAI right?


Um... They were wrong. Animal companions have no more issues with armor than another pc or NPC follower. They also don't cause any issues for druids.

Beyond that even if they did heavy armor proficiency could still be used with something like dragon hide armor.


That said, it seems kind of dumb thematically, for a Druid who has a vow to never wear metal to then give his animal metal armour. Though nothing stops it in the rules.

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Mojorat wrote:
That said, it seems kind of dumb thematically, for a Druid who has a vow to never wear metal to then give his animal metal armour. Though nothing stops it in the rules.

Vows tend to be personal. Being married hardly makes most people object to their friends getting dates, or even helping them to do so, for example.

Or for a more direct example, some priests are not allowed to marry, but still perform marriage ceremonies.


FWIW, I've always restricted my druid's AC armor to leather or hide just for this reason.


I think that a Druids animal companion does have the same vows as the Druid (but it certainly isn't RAW). So when it dons metal armor it will lose it's spellcasting and other features, just like a Druid.


If it has the same vows why would they give it the feats necessary to wear metal armor?

frankly I think giving it the feats just for one special material type you can get much later in the game (much much later when you consider that for the heavy armors the dragon has to be 2 sizes larger and most animal companions go to large size), they would state such a thing


Heavy armor, not metal.


ImperatorK wrote:
Heavy armor, not metal.

Yeah, not all heavy armor is metal.


Other than special materials, what heavy armor isn't? Like I said, Dragon Hide is the only material that says druids can use it for heavy armor.

Otherwise yes all heavy armor is metal. It has splint mail, banded mail, half plate mail, or full plate for traditional. (they have come out with stone plate but that was after the animal companion rules were already written)


Thomas Long 175 wrote:

Other than special materials, what heavy armor isn't? Like I said, Dragon Hide is the only material that says druids can use it for heavy armor.

Otherwise yes all heavy armor is metal. It has splint mail, banded mail, half plate mail, or full plate for traditional. (they have come out with stone plate but that was after the animal companion rules were already written)

Ironwood armor is specifically intended to be heavy armor druids can wear. Presumably so can their animal companions.

Which brings up a question I've had. Outside of the ironwood spell, is there any source of permanent ironwood in the game? Or is all ironwood a temporary condition that has to be recast?


I haven't even seen iron wood since 3.5 didn't even know that they carried it over


Stone plate.
Also, an animal companion can wear metal armor.


A druid won't wear metal armor because it cuts off his connection with nature.

An animal companion IS nature. It can't cut off the connection to itself.


Why are we trying to limit the druids options at armor even more? The druid doesn't wear metal armor because it interferes with his casting and connection with nature. Not because he's against metal armor.


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Stone plate.

I mentioned. And pointed out is was written after the original animal companion rules.

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Why are we trying to limit the druids options at armor even more? The druid doesn't wear metal armor because it interferes with his casting and connection with nature. Not because he's against metal armor

1. I'm not I came across a thread 2 years old where people were yelling about it and found it interesting.

2. I was kinda bored and wanted to see what people thought on a slightly controversial PF topic


I'm with the "metal armor is cool for An Comps" camp. Druids should try to protect their trusty furry friends with the best options available. Also, at middle and higher levels, An Comps can really use decent magical armor. Many take a significant AC hit when they advance (larger size, lower Dex) and they are already dealing with a fading BAB problem in comparison to the frontline fighters and CR-equivalent foes. They need to be able to hang around in a fight for awhile to land some hits.

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