prestige archetypes


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someone may have already asked but is there any out there? i recall a shadow dancer one in linnorm kings but i am curious about others (especially dragon disciple would love to see that go with other bloodlines).


The one you're referring to is in the Wayfinder magazine, and it's the only published one that I know of. I tried making a few awhile ago, but only came up with one or two.


Cheapy wrote:
The one you're referring to is in the Wayfinder magazine, and it's the only published one that I know of. I tried making a few awhile ago, but only came up with one or two.

i know right there has to be someone out there who has done it right?


Most Pathfinder PrCs are pretty specific. If you're archetyping a PrC, you're talking about a niche so tiny that your character is likely to be the only one in the world to have it.

Alternatively, you're talking about a PrC so broad that it might as well not have been a PrC in the first place (I can think of many in the 3.X splatbooks that fit this definition).


I think Dragon Disciple is wide enough that it could have been a sorcerer or bard archetype with a few feats on the side.

Actually, I'd like a "Strong Blood" archetype for sorcerers that empower all their bloodline abilities by a fair amount but reduces their spellcasting. For dragon bloodline, it would be basically the abilities of the DD class.


stringburka wrote:

I think Dragon Disciple is wide enough that it could have been a sorcerer or bard archetype with a few feats on the side.

Actually, I'd like a "Strong Blood" archetype for sorcerers that empower all their bloodline abilities by a fair amount but reduces their spellcasting. For dragon bloodline, it would be basically the abilities of the DD class.

thats sorta what i was looking, we are doing a dragonless campaign soon and i had just before made up my to do the dragon disciple now i was hoping for an alternative.


You want to be a dragon disciple in a dragonless campaign? :S


stringburka wrote:
You want to be a dragon disciple in a dragonless campaign? :S

something in the flavor of a "mega bloodline" i was thinking of doing infernal/abyssal or celestial with a tiefling or a aasimar, and not necessarily in the obvious combinations :)


Ah, I see! Have you considered Synthesist Summoner for the flavor? It can be "broken" but mostly if you make it so. It's got a bit complex rules so I've never tried it out but getting evolution points on a regular basis might seem close to what you're after.


Hum, now I'm thinking of creating a sorcerer archetype that focuses on seeking the roots of it's heritage, losing one spell/day in favor of getting evolution points now and then that can be spent on a subset of the evolutions depending on the bloodline in question.

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stringburka wrote:
I think Dragon Disciple is wide enough that it could have been a sorcerer or bard archetype with a few feats on the side.

Personally, I think "I have dragon's blood in my veins and it makes me more draconic" is specific enough to warrant the Prestige Class. The fact that it easily works with multiple classes is the hallmark of a good prestige class and exactly where Prestige Class's niches should be; archetypes you can't be at level 1, but fit a genre wide enough that multiple classes qualify.

Because let's face it, you're not REALLY a two-weapon master at level 1 when you take that fighter archetype. :)


stringburka wrote:
Hum, now I'm thinking of creating a sorcerer archetype that focuses on seeking the roots of it's heritage, losing one spell/day in favor of getting evolution points now and then that can be spent on a subset of the evolutions depending on the bloodline in question.

hooray, do you think you could post it?


toastwolf wrote:
stringburka wrote:
Hum, now I'm thinking of creating a sorcerer archetype that focuses on seeking the roots of it's heritage, losing one spell/day in favor of getting evolution points now and then that can be spent on a subset of the evolutions depending on the bloodline in question.
hooray, do you think you could post it?

Done and done. Made a thread on it


Archmage_Atrus wrote:

Most Pathfinder PrCs are pretty specific. If you're archetyping a PrC, you're talking about a niche so tiny that your character is likely to be the only one in the world to have it.

Alternatively, you're talking about a PrC so broad that it might as well not have been a PrC in the first place (I can think of many in the 3.X splatbooks that fit this definition).

Mmmm, I dunno. I think there are prestige classes that do not fit into either category. Sure there are many prestige classes that pick something a base class does decently well and then focuses on it. Like the Shadowdancer being more about hiding in shadows than a Rogue is, for instance. But there are also prestige classes that take broad abilities from two different classes and mash them together. Like the Eldritch Knight for instance. I have never thought they were a very flavorful class abilities wise. However, giving that class a few archetypes could make them far more destiguished than "the guy that fights AND casts spells". There are a few other prestige classes like this, as well.


toastwolf wrote:
Cheapy wrote:
The one you're referring to is in the Wayfinder magazine, and it's the only published one that I know of. I tried making a few awhile ago, but only came up with one or two.
i know right there has to be someone out there who has done it right?

You called?

I am currently working on a few different types of archetypes now. I have about 3 other prestige archetypes I am contemplating but right now I am working on the Shadow Knight a shadow dancer archetype. Balance with the game, and balance with the original shadow dancer is a huge problem right now.

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