Feint, From Range?


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Sorry I stink at searching and couldn't find an answer to this though I found lots of flank posts.

Can I use feint if I am not threatening or adjacent to my target. For instance if I was planning to charge next round, or if I was using Greater Feint at range as a debuff for my party.

Second: with improved Feint can I debuff two separate enemies using 2 move action. Thank You!


I can't see anything in the feint rules demanding that you are adjacent to the target, so ranged feinting seems possible. Although I am not sure, as I really haven't seen feinting used much.

And yes, with Imp Feint you can feint 2 opponents in one turn if you want to.


I haven't been able to find anything to prevent ranged feinting.

For extra fun, consider the "Improved Feint Partner" teamwork feat. Besides removing dex, you can pass free attacks to allies who also take the feat!


At the same time, if there's no range limit, I could feint someone in India. I think the intent is that it's melee only, but I don't recall any limitations.


I think the intent is more anyone that can hear or see you. So yes, I could see this working as a ranged ability.


Actually, yeah. I'd just restrict it to 30 feet, as that's the magical distance and it doesn't require perception checks to see if they can actually see you. Usually it's dc 0 but eh.

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