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"Assassinate (Ex): A ninja with this master trick can kill
foes that are unable to defend themselves." So you sneak attach the guy after a round of study and you could kill him, what I'm not clear about is the next line "This attempt automatically fails if the target recognizes
the ninja as an enemy." Does that mean that you can only assassinate someone who does not know you? so in the middle of a battle you can't go invisible study the enemy for a round and then assassinate? Thanks in advance for any clarification
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In order to 'recognize someone' you first need to know they are there. I read this as indicating it is possible to use the assassination attempt on someone who is aware of your presence, but not paying attention because they don't consider you a threat. So... you could walk up to a 'friend' at a party and stick a knife in their back while they are talking to someone else, but if they don't trust you then you can't get the automatic kill.
Or you disguise yourself as a janitor so they don't think you are an enemy while you walk around studying them. Then you hit them with the broom.
If you're invisible/stealthed and he cannot see you, then he seems incapable of recognizing you at all, as an enemy or not. So it should work fine.
Sounds like you can't. Once they realize you are an enemy, it doesn't work.
my interpretation would be that while being invisible he can't recognize you (unless he sees invisibility). I would houserule that being able to pinpoint you makes you recognizable again, same for a disguise donned while invisible and then becoming visible again, the ennemy can deduce that it's still you.
but the ability is phrased vague enough that you should absolutly ask your GM.
Here's the full ability for reference:
Assassinate (Ex): A ninja with this master trick can kill foes that are unable to defend themselves. To attempt to assassinate a target, the ninja must first study her target for 1 round as a standard action. On the following round, if the ninja makes a sneak attack against the target and the target is denied its Dexterity bonus to AC, the sneak attack has the additional effect of possibly killing the target. This attempt automatically fails if the target recognizes the ninja as an enemy. If the sneak attack is successful and the target of this attack fails a Fortitude save, it dies. The DC of this save is equal to 10 + 1/2 the ninja’s level + the ninja’s Charisma modifier. If the save is successful, the target still takes the sneak attack damage as normal, but it is immune to that ninja’s assassinate ability for 1 day.
It already requires them to be denied their dex bonus to you. That's what invisibility does. There's also the caveat that if he recognizes you as an enemy, it automatically fails. It's not an issue of him recognizing, aka seeing, you. It's an issue of him recognizing you as an enemy. Once he realizes you're an enemy, then this ability is moot. Going invisible doesn't change the fact that he still thinks of you as an enemy.
You can be standing right next to him as he eats his dinner, and if he doesn't know you're an enemy, you can assassinate him.
You can be invisible and watching your target reading the newspaper, and then assassinate him. Not because you're invisible, but because he doesn't realize you're an enemy.
The ability is such that if the target knows you're his enemy, it doesn't work. Due to this restriction, it is mostly an out-of-combat ability.
Unless, of course, your GM plays the NPCs as "Herp derp, he magically disappeared, must not be here anymore so he can't be an enemy".
how can he distinguish between two invisible ninjas, when only one told him he would kill him, and both vanish at the same time?
I'm not saying I'm sure, but I think if he can still feel threatened by an invisibile ninja, then the ability should state outright that it cannot be used when the target feels threaned by anyone.
I'll FAQ it.
Man, if I saw 2 ninjas, and one said they were going to kill me, and they both vanished at the same time, I'd assume the other one is going to too :p
"Feels threatened" opens a can of worms because threatened is already a game term, and then people would wonder how that interacts with this ability, and wonder why it would be impossible to assassinate with a melee weapon or any other that threatens, and how it works with ranged attacks that threaten, and if the enemy can "feel" when he's being threatened by another character.
And that's what the "recognizes the ninja as an enemy" means.
Hey,
So in combat if no ennemy see you at the begining of the fight, the abbility should work but not during the fight if every one see you becoming invisible. Am I right?
Or it just mean that you only can killed friends ?