Performance Combatant in a Normal Party


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How does a performance combatant sway a crowd that only consists of his enemies and the party he is with?

Are his companions considered a Helpful Crowd?

If alone is the enemy group considered a Hostile Crowd?

What is the performance check DC in a random encounter?

I'm planning to play a Gladiator Fighter.

1 - Weapon Focus, Dazzling Display, Dramatic Display, Performance Weapon Master

2 - Performance Combatant

3 - Savage Display

4 - Masterful Display

5 - Power Attack

The Exchange

I'd say they don't count towards a crowd at all, nor would most bystanders not expecting bloodshed.


Does that mean that the Performance Feats go off as a swift action without needing a performance check?

Or does a performance check still need to be made?

If so, what would the DC needed to pass be?


Take this feat:
Performing Combatant (Combat)

You treat every combat as a performance, bringing flare and showmanship.

Prerequisites: Dazzling Display, any one performance feat.

Benefit: You can make performance combat checks in any combat. When making a performance check outside of performance combat, you can pick a single performance feat to use. You automatically gain any bonus on the performance combat check the feat grants, and then you make a DC 20 performance combat check. On a success, you gain the full effect of the performance feat you chose.

There you go. It is a DC20 performance check.


Hah... well.. thanks :P


Tarantula wrote:

Take this feat:

Performing Combatant (Combat)

You treat every combat as a performance, bringing flare and showmanship.

Prerequisites: Dazzling Display, any one performance feat.

Benefit: You can make performance combat checks in any combat. When making a performance check outside of performance combat, you can pick a single performance feat to use. You automatically gain any bonus on the performance combat check the feat grants, and then you make a DC 20 performance combat check. On a success, you gain the full effect of the performance feat you chose.

There you go. It is a DC20 performance check.

It should be a DC20 Performance Combat Check. Or at higher levels it would be automatic. The way you have it worded it would be going off your preform skill. I'm researching this right now. Might start my own thread.


Well it's an official feat...

Performing Combatant:

Performing Combatant (Combat)

You treat every combat as a performance, bringing flare and showmanship.

Prerequisites: Dazzling Display, any one performance feat.

Benefit: You can make performance combat checks in any combat. When making a performance check outside of performance combat, you can pick a single performance feat to use. You automatically gain any bonus on the performance combat check the feat grants, and then you make a DC 20 performance combat check. On a success, you gain the full effect of the performance feat you chose.


Im not saying its not a feat, i was just adding the word "Combat" to Tarantula's statement. The way he had it worded it would be a Preformance check. And its a Preformance "combat" check. They are different.


Slacker2010 wrote:
Im not saying its not a feat, i was just adding the word "Combat" to Tarantula's statement. The way he had it worded it would be a Preformance check. And its a Preformance "combat" check. They are different.

I just wanted to point out how they are different. A person with with 11 ranks in performance would get a +11 to the performance check. However, a person with 11 ranks would only get a +3 on a performance "combat" check.

See the prd about a quarter of the way down.

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