Johaan05
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Hello, I was looking through the Monk and it's vast amount of Archtypes. I saw a thread on this board showing that Martial Artist/Sensei is a possible solution. Now the deal with Martial Artist is the removal of the Lawful restriction of the alignment, however I believe that the Sensei basically should have the alignment of Lawful, because it doesnt say the restriction is removed. What is the group opinion of this?
Also stacking of Archtypes when the Sorcerer Empyreal or Sage is added as a crossblooded sorcerer, does the other portion of the crossblooded Primary casting stat also follow Wis (Empyreal) or Int (Sage)
~ e.g. a Crossblooded Empyreal / Verdant Bloodline would have the bloodline arcana applied from both, but only the Empyreal one says Wis, and the Verdant Bloodline presumes Charisma is the Primary Casting Stat.
Thanks for your insight.
| Starbuck_II |
Hello, I was looking through the Monk and it's vast amount of Archtypes. I saw a thread on this board showing that Martial Artist/Sensei is a possible solution. Now the deal with Martial Artist is the removal of the Lawful restriction of the alignment, however I believe that the Sensei basically should have the alignment of Lawful, because it doesnt say the restriction is removed. What is the group opinion of this?
Also stacking of Archtypes when the Sorcerer Empyreal or Sage is added as a crossblooded sorcerer, does the other portion of the crossblooded Primary casting stat also follow Wis (Empyreal) or Int (Sage)
~ e.g. a Crossblooded Empyreal / Verdant Bloodline would have the bloodline arcana applied from both, but only the Empyreal one says Wis, and the Verdant Bloodline presumes Charisma is the Primary Casting Stat.Thanks for your insight.
Be a lawful Martial artist so you still qualify for Sensei if it matters to be lawful.
| Mort the Cleverly Named |
Sensei / Martial Artist is indeed a possible combination, and would have no alignment restrictions. The whole part of archetypes is changing specific class features, and those changes aren't undone by having multiple archetypes. Just like a Sensei/Martial Artist wouldn't have Flurry of Blows (because Sensei replaces it), it wouldn't have alignment restrictions (because Martial Artist removed them).
On your second question, let us look at the Empyreal bloodline.
Unlike most sorcerers whose innate magic is powered by force of personality, you use pure willpower to master and fuel your magic. You use your Wisdom, rather than your Charisma, to determine all class features and effects relating to your sorcerer class, such as bonus spells per day, maximum spell level you can cast, and the save DCs of your spells.
The abilities of the Verdant bloodline are features or effects of your sorcerer class. Thus, they are also switched over to use Wisdom thanks to Empyreal.
| Richard Leonhart |
for the case of alignment restrictions, it's not a class feature I believe, but by a very strict reading of Raw it might be possible to make a case for "no alignement restriction".
However logic dictates otherwise, if Group A tells me I have to be either blue or green to join, and Group B tells me I have to green to join, then if I want to join both, I would naturally be green.
Feel free to let your GM decide.
| Talonhawke |
The martial artist removes that restriction for the class period no longer is it there.
If the Sensai said you had to be Lawful Good then you would have to be that alignment regardless of the martial artist. But it doesn't say that.
To argue that adding in a second archetype means you get the alignment restiction back would be like argueing that since I'm also a martial artist I get my Flurry of Blows back.
| Lune |
I agree with Talonhawke. The archetypes do not say you have to be "green" to join. The base class does. The archetype modifies the base class. So does the other archetype. Since they do not contradict eachother and neither are modifying or taking away the same thing, they work in conjunction with eachother.
Same with the bloodline. It changes the base class. All of the other bloodlines refer to the base class which has been changed by the other bloodline.