Negative Energy Elemental...

[Blackfoot]

Anyone ever heard of one of these? Are there rules for one in PF?

[Lab_Rat]

Other than the obvious response that negative energy is not an element. I do not think there are rules for that.

However...
there are creatures (undead) that can give you the same feel as a negative energy elemental.
Wraith
Wraith Spawn
Dread Wraith

[Blackfoot]

Lab_Rat wrote:

Other than the obvious response that negative energy is not an element. I do not think there are rules for that.

However...
there are creatures (undead) that can give you the same feel as a negative energy elemental.
Wraith
Wraith Spawn
Dread Wraith

I'm not sure why it wouldn't be considered an element... but the thing is that my group is currently running the 'City of Golden Death' and our wizard is just about ready to get her 'improved familiar' as she's a sorta quasi-evil follower of Nethys it seemed very fitting that she might summon up some of the local negative energy that is all around to bind into a familiar. It would work out rather elegantly if such a thing existed... and it seems like a pretty neat idea overall.

[Blackfoot]

Blackfoot wrote:

Lab_Rat wrote:

Other than the obvious response that negative energy is not an element. I do not think there are rules for that.

However...
there are creatures (undead) that can give you the same feel as a negative energy elemental.
Wraith
Wraith Spawn
Dread Wraith

I'm not sure why it wouldn't be considered an element... but the thing is that my group is currently running the 'City of Golden Death' and our wizard is just about ready to get her 'improved familiar' as she's a sorta quasi-evil follower of Nethys it seemed very fitting that she might summon up some of the local negative energy that is all around to bind into a familiar. It would work out rather elegantly if such a thing existed... and it seems like a pretty neat idea overall.

Actually.. thanks for sending me over there. I found a reference to one.

Negative Energy Elemental
Woo Woo!

[Jiggy]

If you're the GM, invent something. If not, then suggest she work with the GM on a reasonable custom familiar.

Also, you'll get better traffic in a different section of the forums, so I flagged the OP for a move. :)

[Spaarky]

Yes, they exsist. There was one detailed in The Witchwar Legacy. Here is a link to its stats

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/elemental/eleme ntal-negati ve-energy-elder

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[Lab_Rat]

If this is a PFS related question then you are just out of luck. There is no way to get that with the rules.

However, if this is a home game and not PFS (You may get better help in the advice or general section instead of the PFS section):
What you could do is take the homunculus stats (since it's stats are balanced around being a construct) and give it the elemental subtype instead of the construct type. Then just make the damage negative energy.

[Spaarky]

For Pathfinder Society though it is not on the list of allowed familiars and thus would not be legal for play. Evil Alignments are also not allowed so I doubt it is a society legal character.

[Blackfoot]

Now if I can just figure out how to convert 'Elder' to 'Small'... :)

The cool part is they aren't even actually evil.

[Thursty]

This is likely a thread that will be moved (not PFS specific)

But your best bet is the Tome of Horrors Complete from Frog God Games, as they have the statblock for all sizes of negative energy elementals.

[mdt]

I recommend Tome of Horrors highly. :)

I used the negative energy elementals to great effect. Killed a player character who ran off in front of everyone and cast fairy fire in a big room on his own. He woke up for of the things and they ate him.

[Blackfoot]

Why was this thread moved to 'house rules'? That doesn't seem like the right place.. it's a 'general discussion' thing. Negative Energy Elementals do apparently exist in the canon world.. and any sort of elemental can be taken as a familiar... the write up for 'small' ones is apparently only available through a 3rd party source... but .. hrm.