paizo.com Recent Posts in Negative Energy Elemental...paizo.com Recent Posts in Negative Energy Elemental...2012-04-20T17:43:43Z2012-04-20T17:43:43ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Negative Energy Elemental...Blackfoothttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nz7e?Negative-Energy-Elemental#122012-04-21T19:39:49Z2012-04-21T19:39:49Z<p>Why was this thread moved to 'house rules'? That doesn't seem like the right place.. it's a 'general discussion' thing. Negative Energy Elementals do apparently exist in the canon world.. and any sort of elemental can be taken as a familiar... the write up for 'small' ones is apparently only available through a 3rd party source... but .. hrm.</p>Why was this thread moved to 'house rules'? That doesn't seem like the right place.. it's a 'general discussion' thing. Negative Energy Elementals do apparently exist in the canon world.. and any sort of elemental can be taken as a familiar... the write up for 'small' ones is apparently only available through a 3rd party source... but .. hrm.Blackfoot2012-04-21T19:39:49ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Negative Energy Elemental...mdthttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nz7e?Negative-Energy-Elemental#112012-04-20T21:26:49Z2012-04-20T21:26:49Z<p>I recommend Tome of Horrors highly. :)</p>
<p>I used the negative energy elementals to great effect. Killed a player character who ran off in front of everyone and cast fairy fire in a big room on his own. He woke up for of the things and they ate him.</p>I recommend Tome of Horrors highly. :)
I used the negative energy elementals to great effect. Killed a player character who ran off in front of everyone and cast fairy fire in a big room on his own. He woke up for of the things and they ate him.mdt2012-04-20T21:26:49ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Negative Energy Elemental...Thursty (Canadian Maplecakes) (alias of Thurston Hillman, Managing Creative Director (Starfinder))https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nz7e?Negative-Energy-Elemental#102012-04-20T15:25:16Z2012-04-20T15:25:16Z<p>This is likely a thread that will be moved (not PFS specific)</p>
<p>But your best bet is the Tome of Horrors Complete from Frog God Games, as they have the statblock for all sizes of negative energy elementals.</p>This is likely a thread that will be moved (not PFS specific)
But your best bet is the Tome of Horrors Complete from Frog God Games, as they have the statblock for all sizes of negative energy elementals.Thursty (Canadian Maplecakes) (alias of Thurston Hillman, Managing Creative Director (Starfinder))2012-04-20T15:25:16ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Negative Energy Elemental...Blackfoothttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nz7e?Negative-Energy-Elemental#92012-04-20T15:19:52Z2012-04-20T15:19:52Z<p>Now if I can just figure out how to convert 'Elder' to 'Small'... :)</p>
<p>The cool part is they aren't even actually evil.</p>Now if I can just figure out how to convert 'Elder' to 'Small'... :)
The cool part is they aren't even actually evil.Blackfoot2012-04-20T15:19:52ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Negative Energy Elemental...Spaarkyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nz7e?Negative-Energy-Elemental#82012-04-20T15:10:20Z2012-04-20T15:10:20Z<p>For Pathfinder Society though it is not on the list of allowed familiars and thus would not be legal for play. Evil Alignments are also not allowed so I doubt it is a society legal character.</p>For Pathfinder Society though it is not on the list of allowed familiars and thus would not be legal for play. Evil Alignments are also not allowed so I doubt it is a society legal character.Spaarky2012-04-20T15:10:20ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Negative Energy Elemental...Lab_Rat (alias of Matt Beatty)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nz7e?Negative-Energy-Elemental#72012-04-20T15:07:56Z2012-04-20T15:07:56Z<p>If this is a PFS related question then you are just out of luck. There is no way to get that with the rules.</p>
<p>However, if this is a home game and not PFS (You may get better help in the advice or general section instead of the PFS section):
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What you could do is take the homunculus stats (since it's stats are balanced around being a construct) and give it the elemental subtype instead of the construct type. Then just make the damage negative energy.</p>If this is a PFS related question then you are just out of luck. There is no way to get that with the rules.
However, if this is a home game and not PFS (You may get better help in the advice or general section instead of the PFS section):
What you could do is take the homunculus stats (since it's stats are balanced around being a construct) and give it the elemental subtype instead of the construct type. Then just make the damage negative energy.Lab_Rat (alias of Matt Beatty)2012-04-20T15:07:56ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Negative Energy Elemental...Spaarkyhttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nz7e?Negative-Energy-Elemental#62012-04-20T15:05:52Z2012-04-20T15:05:52Z<p>Yes, they exsist. There was one detailed in The Witchwar Legacy. Here is a link to its stats</p>
<p>http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/elemental/eleme ntal-negati ve-energy-elder</p>
<p>e;fb</p>Yes, they exsist. There was one detailed in The Witchwar Legacy. Here is a link to its stats
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/elemental/eleme ntal-negati ve-energy-elder
e;fbSpaarky2012-04-20T15:05:52ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Negative Energy Elemental...Jiggy (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nz7e?Negative-Energy-Elemental#52012-04-20T15:02:33Z2012-04-20T15:02:33Z<p>If you're the GM, invent something. If not, then suggest she work with the GM on a reasonable custom familiar.</p>
<p>Also, you'll get better traffic in a different section of the forums, so I flagged the OP for a move. :)</p>If you're the GM, invent something. If not, then suggest she work with the GM on a reasonable custom familiar.
Also, you'll get better traffic in a different section of the forums, so I flagged the OP for a move. :)Jiggy (RPG Superstar 2015 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32)2012-04-20T15:02:33ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Negative Energy Elemental...Blackfoothttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nz7e?Negative-Energy-Elemental#42012-04-20T15:02:28Z2012-04-20T15:02:28Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Blackfoot wrote:</div><blockquote> <div class="messageboard-quotee">Lab_Rat wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Other than the obvious response that negative energy is not an element. I do not think there are rules for that.</p>
<p>However...
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there are creatures (undead) that can give you the same feel as a negative energy elemental.
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<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/undead/wraith" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Wraith</a>
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<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/undead/wraith/wraith-spawn" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Wraith Spawn</a>
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<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/undead/wraith/wraith-dread" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Dread Wraith</a> </blockquote>I'm not sure why it wouldn't be considered an element... but the thing is that my group is currently running the 'City of Golden Death' and our wizard is just about ready to get her 'improved familiar' as she's a sorta quasi-evil follower of Nethys it seemed very fitting that she might summon up some of the local negative energy that is all around to bind into a familiar. It would work out rather elegantly if such a thing existed... and it seems like a pretty neat idea overall. </blockquote><p>Actually.. thanks for sending me over there. I found a reference to one.
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<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/outsiders/elemental/elemental-negative-energy-elder" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Negative Energy Elemental</a>
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Woo Woo!</p>Blackfoot wrote:Lab_Rat wrote:Other than the obvious response that negative energy is not an element. I do not think there are rules for that.
However...
there are creatures (undead) that can give you the same feel as a negative energy elemental.
Wraith
Wraith Spawn
Dread Wraith
I'm not sure why it wouldn't be considered an element... but the thing is that my group is currently running the 'City of Golden Death' and our wizard is just about ready to get her 'improved familiar' as she's a...Blackfoot2012-04-20T15:02:28ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Negative Energy Elemental...Blackfoothttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nz7e?Negative-Energy-Elemental#32012-04-20T14:56:39Z2012-04-20T14:56:39Z<div class="messageboard-quotee">Lab_Rat wrote:</div><blockquote><p> Other than the obvious response that negative energy is not an element. I do not think there are rules for that.</p>
<p>However...
<br />
there are creatures (undead) that can give you the same feel as a negative energy elemental.
<br />
<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/undead/wraith" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Wraith</a>
<br />
<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/undead/wraith/wraith-spawn" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Wraith Spawn</a>
<br />
<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/undead/wraith/wraith-dread" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Dread Wraith</a> </blockquote><p>I'm not sure why it wouldn't be considered an element... but the thing is that my group is currently running the 'City of Golden Death' and our wizard is just about ready to get her 'improved familiar' as she's a sorta quasi-evil follower of Nethys it seemed very fitting that she might summon up some of the local negative energy that is all around to bind into a familiar. It would work out rather elegantly if such a thing existed... and it seems like a pretty neat idea overall.Lab_Rat wrote:Other than the obvious response that negative energy is not an element. I do not think there are rules for that.
However...
there are creatures (undead) that can give you the same feel as a negative energy elemental.
Wraith
Wraith Spawn
Dread Wraith
I'm not sure why it wouldn't be considered an element... but the thing is that my group is currently running the 'City of Golden Death' and our wizard is just about ready to get her 'improved familiar' as she's a sorta quasi-evil...Blackfoot2012-04-20T14:56:39ZRe: Forums: Homebrew and House Rules: Negative Energy Elemental...Lab_Rat (alias of Matt Beatty)https://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nz7e?Negative-Energy-Elemental#22012-04-20T14:51:52Z2012-04-20T14:51:52Z<p>Other than the obvious response that negative energy is not an element. I do not think there are rules for that.</p>
<p>However...
<br />
there are creatures (undead) that can give you the same feel as a negative energy elemental.
<br />
<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/undead/wraith" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Wraith</a>
<br />
<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/undead/wraith/wraith-spawn" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Wraith Spawn</a>
<br />
<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/undead/wraith/wraith-dread" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Dread Wraith</a></p>Other than the obvious response that negative energy is not an element. I do not think there are rules for that.
However...
there are creatures (undead) that can give you the same feel as a negative energy elemental.
Wraith
Wraith Spawn
Dread WraithLab_Rat (alias of Matt Beatty)2012-04-20T14:51:52ZForums: Homebrew and House Rules: Negative Energy Elemental...Blackfoothttps://paizo.com/threads/rzs2nz7e?Negative-Energy-Elemental#12012-04-20T17:43:43Z2012-04-20T12:53:52Z<p>Anyone ever heard of one of these? Are there rules for one in PF?</p>Anyone ever heard of one of these? Are there rules for one in PF?Blackfoot2012-04-20T12:53:52Z