When a Witch uses a Hex (Supernatural ability) on a target, does the caster know if the attack was successful?
Ex: When a Witch uses Evil Eye on a target, does she know if the target made his saving throw or not?
I think to remember that casters know if the target saves against their spells. It would make sense that witches know the same with their hex.
I can't find that now though, so I might be misremembering.
I think to remember that casters know if the target saves against their spells. It would make sense that witches know the same with their hex.
I can't find that now though, so I might be misremembering.
What you're looking for is under Saving Throws in the Spells section of the Core Rulebook:
Succeeding on a Saving Throw: A creature that successfully saves against a spell that has no obvious physical effects feels a hostile force or a tingle, but cannot deduce the exact nature of the attack. Likewise, if a creature's saving throw succeeds against a targeted spell, you sense that the spell has failed. You do not sense when creatures succeed on saves against effect and area spells.
That says nothing about Supernatural abilities, but I could see how they'd be similar.
Ah yes, thank you Harley.
Yes it does not mention Su or anything other than spells, but as I said, if you feel it with them you should feel it with the others too.
Guess in the end it's a judgment call for the GM.
More importantly, does the target always know he/she cast it?
Can you Bluff or the like to disguise a cast?
More importantly, does the target always know he/she cast it?
Can you Bluff or the like to disguise a cast?
I think you are supposed to use Sleight Of Hand to disguise somatic gestures.
I think you are supposed to use Sleight Of Hand to disguise somatic gestures.More importantly, does the target always know he/she cast it?
Can you Bluff or the like to disguise a cast?
Except Hexes don't have VSM, they are Su abilities.
There is then, 'no cast'.
Hence, how would a target know who had used the ability, and would they even know if they had resisted it?
Fortitude or Reflex saves, target would definitely know. For will, just as with the OP's question, I'd default to the spell saving throws rules. Which say for spells with no immediate/apparent effect, the target knows he made a save if he succeeds at it, otherwise he does not.
Harley quoted the rules I'm talking about already.
I guess I'm more more getting to the next question about whether there;s any sort of outward display when using a Su ability. There's no VSM, so how does someone know it was you?
There's nothing that suggests you use the ability with anything more than a thought.
Answer: There isn't any.
Keep knowledge of your possessing such abilities to yourself, and in a social/urban setting, Su abilities can be a devastating secretive weapon. At least for the ones with no obvious outward display, or at least one that you can't tell where it originated from.
Ex: In 3E, you had the reserve feats, which were Su abilities. Of the elemental ones, Acid was a ranged touch glob (clearly comes from you), Cold was a cone attack (likewise), lightning was a line (yet again...), but the fire one... made a 5 ft square within 30 ft of you burst into flames (bingo!). Which made it great if you wanted to start fires with no one being able to trace the fault back to you...
Yeah thats what I have slowly come to realise...
Awesome.