Cabalist Magus / Dragon Disciple?


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I'm wanting to gain access to the Dragon Disciple Prestige class via the spontaneous casting Cabalist Magus archetype.
My GM has approved the basic INT based Cabalist Magus system, so I have the go ahead for that.
I could dip into a sorcerer level even if he didn't, but that would be to the detriment of my DD levels, by the end of it.
But my big question is, do the Cabalist levels in the draconic Bloodline count as sorcerer levels when it comes to the DD Blood of Dragons ability?

"Blood of Dragons: A dragon disciple adds his level
to his sorcerer levels when determining the powers
gained from his bloodline. If the dragon disciple does
not have levels of sorcerer, he instead gains bloodline
powers of the draconic bloodline, using his dragon disciple
level as his sorcerer level to determine the bonuses gained.
He must choose a dragon type upon gaining his first level
in this class and that type must be the same as his sorcerer
type. This ability does not grant bonus spells to a sorcerer
unless he possesses spell slots of an appropriate level. Such
bonus spells are automatically granted if the sorcerer gains
spell slots of the spell’s level."

As a secondary question; the Cabalist is stated as gaining a sorcerer bloodline at 7th level instead of his knowledge pool, treating his magus level as his sorcerer level.
Does he retroactively gain the powers that he has so far missed? In this case, does he gain claws attacks that are considered magic and deal 1d6, DR 5 for his energy type,and a natural ac +1? All at 7th level?
Does this seem an excessive trade off in replacement of Knowledge Pool to any of you?

I would love some advice with these two questions. Also, by the by, first time poster, here(be gentle).

The Exchange

Primary: Your magus levels count as sorcerer levels, therefore, your Dragon Disciple levels would be added to your effective sorcerer level. Otherwise, you have 2 sorcerer levels for a bloodline that you would be getting twice.

Secondary:
Yes, he receives all of the benefits a Sorcerer has at 7th level. It is quite a bump, but Knowledge Pool is a very versatile ability. You don't have to have spells written in your spellbook in order to prepare them, and (if you are so inclined) you can learn every magus spell you are capable of casting, by preparing the spell, and subsequently writing it down into your spellbook.


Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
but Knowledge Pool is a very versatile ability. You don't have to have spells written in your spellbook in order to prepare them, and (if you are so inclined) you can learn every magus spell you are capable of casting, by preparing the spell, and subsequently writing it down into your spellbook.

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blahpers wrote:

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Edgar Lamoureux wrote:
you can learn every magus spell you are capable of casting, by preparing the spell, and subsequently writing it down into your spellbook.

I suspected something like this would be possible for knowledge pool. Thanks for confirming it. And indeed.

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But as a Cabalist, it naturally wouldn't be handy, since a Cabalist doesn't have a spellbook.

I could do the alternative, and take a sorc level to qualify, but that would set back a lot of the perks for this build (aside from my BAB).
My bloodline levels would start at that level, rather than getting the seven level boost they would with the Cabalist.

I would basically miss out on half of the special and lovely dragon powers, for the sake of knowledge pool(and being a bladebound magus).

The Exchange

You can be a Cabalist Bladebound Magus, as they don't replace any abilities that stack.

But you are correct, Knowledge Pool would be useless for a Cabalist.


Hmm, that's another thing to think about. It's generally okay to take two archetypes in one class?
If so, that's another thing I'll have to clear with my GM.
Food for thought. Thanks Edgar!

The Exchange

Yep. In fact, just as an example, one legal Alchemist combination is Vivisectionist/Chirurgeon/Internal Alchemist.

No problem.

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