PRD States Two-Weapon Fighting 'helps' secondary natural attacks. How?


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Silver Crusade

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PRD states wrote:
You can make attacks with natural weapons in combination with attacks made with a melee weapon and unarmed strikes, so long as a different limb is used for each attack. For example, you cannot make a claw attack and also use that hand to make attacks with a longsword. When you make additional attacks in this way, all of your natural attacks are treated as secondary natural attacks, using your base attack bonus minus 5 and adding only 1/2 of your Strength modifier on damage rolls. Feats such as Two-Weapon Fighting and Multiattack can reduce these penalties.

How does Two-Weapon Fighting reduce the penalties of secondary natural attacks? Am I missing something here?

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Volkspanzer wrote:
PRD states wrote:
You can make attacks with natural weapons in combination with attacks made with a melee weapon and unarmed strikes, so long as a different limb is used for each attack. For example, you cannot make a claw attack and also use that hand to make attacks with a longsword. When you make additional attacks in this way, all of your natural attacks are treated as secondary natural attacks, using your base attack bonus minus 5 and adding only 1/2 of your Strength modifier on damage rolls. Feats such as Two-Weapon Fighting and Multiattack can reduce these penalties.

How does Two-Weapon Fighting reduce the penalties of secondary natural attacks? Am I missing something here?

I believe they would reduce the penalty to -2.


Volkspanzer wrote:
Am I missing something here?

Remnants of errata.

Formerly, that section said that if you combine weapons and natural attacks you take Two-Weapon Fighting penalties. Thus, the TWF feat can help reduce those penalties. The Bestiary conflicted with this, and it didn't really make much sense anyway, so newer version of the book fixed it, but some of the language is still left over.

Silver Crusade

Grick wrote:

Remnants of errata.

Formerly, that section said that if you combine weapons and natural attacks you take Two-Weapon Fighting penalties. Thus, the TWF feat can help reduce those penalties. The Bestiary conflicted with this, and it didn't really make much sense anyway, so newer version of the book fixed it, but some of the language is still left over.

So, Two-weapon fighting does nothing to secondary natural attacks? If so, then sad day.


Volkspanzer wrote:
So, Two-weapon fighting does nothing to secondary natural attacks?

Correct. You need Multiattack for that.

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