Readying, Reach and AoOs


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So let's say you have a longspear. You brace it against a charge.
A goblin charges you. You get the readied action, dealing double damage thanks to the Brace quality. He survives the readied attack and keeps moving.
Question: Do you get an AoO from reach in addition to the readied action? And do you double the damage for it as well?


What makes you think you wouldn't? If he moves from the square threatened, he provokes. If you wanted, you can set and brace and not ready an action for when they charge, and just rely on the AoO.


Oh, so you can Brace without a readied action? Interesting. :D
Only thing that made me wonder was that it seemed a bit funny to be able to score two automatic attacks. Once I'd written out my question, it looked obvious to me, but I thought I'd ask.
And it's good to know that you can get Brace damage without using your previous action for it. :)


Well, the brace property explicitly works on readied actions only. So it wouldn't work on an AoO.

However, yeah, you'd get a readied attack when the target entered your threatened square, then get an AoO when it left your threatened square.


I want to know how the goblin disengages it's impaled gut from your longspear to continue moving anyway. :)


Okay, thanks, Mr. Loy.

Liberty's Edge

jupistar wrote:
I want to know how the goblin disengages it's impaled gut from your longspear to continue moving anyway. :)

Not sure I recall anything about braced attacks as necessarily resulting in an impaled gut. :)

Spearman braces for the attack. His ready goes off. He gets the attack. If the goblin survives, maybe a better description is that he was gashed on the shoulder. If he doesn't survive, that's a good time to break out the description of impaled. :)


jupistar wrote:
I want to know how the goblin disengages it's impaled gut from your longspear to continue moving anyway. :)

Messily.


I'm still not wholly satisfied with the answer to this question, looking back on it. I'd like to ask for a second opinion: Does damage get doubled on both the readied skewer and the AoO skewer?


I'm not sure I have the most authoritative answer, but in my opinion, no.

Quote:
Brace: If you use a readied action to set a brace weapon against a charge, you deal double damage on a successful hit against a charging character (see Combat).

The way I see it the brace "effect" applies only to the readied action to hit the opponent. The possible AoO due to them continuing to move afterwards would not be affected by that "effect".

Grand Lodge

What the OP describes is Rodinia's favorite tactic. On the round before an incoming foe arrives she will usually 'Ready an action to attack the first foe to come within reach'. Sometimes this will be a brace. This usually gets her two attacks (one readied action and one AoO) on the first foe to approach.


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Double damage, no.

Brace, allows you to double damage as a regular attack during special circumstances. There is no reason to believe that it continues to the AoO.

Two attacks, yes. One readied action, one AoO.

When you ready an action, "You can ready a standard action,
a move action, a swift action, or a free action" but not a full attack action.

Even if two people charge you before your turn, only one suffers the double damage from a brace as you can only ready one attack.

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