Can a Paladin benefit from an effect he is immune to?

[HappyDaze]

Can a high-level paladin that is immune to compulsions benefit from (be the target of) Aid, Bless, Good Hope, Heroism, Prayer (the beneficial aspects), Rage and similar spells?

[Umbral Reaver]

I don't think it's intended that those effects are prevented by immunity to compulsion effects, but it would be amusing if the answer was that immunity blocks those effects as well.

[wraithstrike]

I would think so. PF slightly changed the wording, but the following quote still exist.

Quote:

Voluntarily Giving up a Saving Throw: A creature can voluntarily forego a saving throw and willingly accept a spell's result. Even a character with a special resistance to magic can suppress this quality.

[HappyDaze]

wraithstrike wrote:

I would think so. PF slightly changed the wording, but the following quote still exist.

Quote:

Voluntarily Giving up a Saving Throw: A creature can voluntarily forego a saving throw and willingly accept a spell's result. Even a character with a special resistance to magic can suppress this quality.

So can you command your golem to accept a spell that has SR?

[wraithstrike]

I would say yes since. Hasting a golem would be a great idea. SR took a standard action to lower. I would assuming(not actual rules) that resistance to magic might also take a standard action.

[Diego Rossi]

PRD wrote:

Immunity (Ex or Su) A creature with immunities takes no damage from listed sources. Immunities can also apply to afflictions, conditions, spells (based on school, level, or save type), and other effects. A creature that is immune does not suffer from these effects, or any secondary effects that are triggered due to an immune effect.

Format: Immune acid, fire, paralysis; Location: Defensive Abilities.

PRD wrote:

Spell Resistance

A creature can voluntarily lower its spell resistance. Doing so is a standard action that does not provoke an attack of opportunity. Once a creature lowers its resistance, it remains down until the creature's next turn. At the beginning of the creature's next turn, the creature's spell resistance automatically returns unless the creature intentionally keeps it down (also a standard action that does not provoke an attack of opportunity).

It depend if it work as a creature immunity to something (and then it can't be suppressed, even voluntarily) or like spell resistance and then it can be suppressed as a standard action for a full round.

I think that it work like SR 8especiallya s the immunity work only as long as the paladin is conscious). While the ability is active the paladin not be affected in any way, positive or negative, by compulsion spells. As SR don't apply to spell that have already affected the target, when the paladin ability restart at his next turn the spell stay in effect for the full duration.

[Zark]

If you are immune to poison you can't get drunk. Nooooooo!

[Kydeem de'Morcaine]

Zark wrote:

If you are immune to poison you can't get drunk. Nooooooo!

I always wanted to use neutralize poison on a stupid drunken monk.

[LazarX]

HappyDaze wrote:

Can a high-level paladin that is immune to compulsions benefit from (be the target of) Aid, Bless, Good Hope, Heroism, Prayer (the beneficial aspects), Rage and similar spells?

Since none of these spells are of the compulsion subtype, there's no problem. Rage might be the only issue depending on the circumstances, not so much has getting the spell effects, atoning for what he might do under them. :)

[Diego Rossi]

Actually:

Aid School enchantment (compulsion) [mind-affecting]

Bless School enchantment (compulsion) [mind-affecting]

Good Hope School enchantment (compulsion) [mind-affecting];

Heroism School enchantment (compulsion) [mind-affecting];

Prayer School enchantment (compulsion) [mind-affecting];

Rage School enchantment (compulsion) [mind-affecting];

[HappyDaze]

LazarX wrote:

HappyDaze wrote:

Can a high-level paladin that is immune to compulsions benefit from (be the target of) Aid, Bless, Good Hope, Heroism, Prayer (the beneficial aspects), Rage and similar spells?

Since none of these spells are of the compulsion subtype, there's no problem.

As Diego shows, I did my homework.

[Reecy]

That is correct you can not benefit from these effects. There is an archtype called SpellBreaker that points this out in more detail, yes it is a class feature, but if you are immune to Effect A it can not help or hinder you at all.