| Chosen of Desna |
One of the players in my new Pathfinder group (with me as DM) intends to play a gnome sorcerer with the abyssal bloodline. As the bloodline flavor text states that "you might sometimes have urges to chaos or evil, but your destiny (and your alignment) is up to you" he chose chaotic good as his alignment.
The trouble started when he told me that would specialize in summon monster spells....benefitting from the bloodline arcana of the abyssal bloodline ("whenever you cast a spell of the summoning subschool, the creatures summoned gain DR/good equal to 1/2 your sorcerer level... This does not stack with any DR the creature might have."
As his alignment is CG, all of the previously non-aligned creatures that he summons automatically receive the celestial template and become CG. The thought of CG celestial creatures with DR/good seems contradictory to me, as normally only the "bad guys" have DR/good whereas the "good guys" have DR/evil.
At higher levels another questions arises as eventually the summoned creatures with the celestial template get DR/evil starting at 5 HD. I find the idea odd at least that a good creature would possess DR/evil AND DR/good. It says that the DR doesn't stack, but does that mean that only DR/good and another DR/good does not stack or does it mean that DR/good and DR/evil don't stack? After all, DR is DR, no matter by what kind of alignment or weapon type it can be overcome, right?
Your opinions on this topic or any rules clarifications would be gladly appreciated.
Marie
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I'm pretty sure it just means that this DR/good doesn't stack with other sources of DR/good (like the natural DR of evil outsiders) to create absurdly high DR.
So RAW his summoned creatures would have DR/evil and DR/good. At most levels, the amounts DR/evil and DR/good would be different, so a good weapon would get through the DR/good and an evil weapon would get through the DR/evil, and it would take a weapon that was both good and evil to get through both.
| warren Burgess |
Actually Chosen of Desna Marie is partially right only the highest effective DR is applied i.e. 10/Good and 5/evil the Good would apply if the weapon or critter has Good aligned attacks then the Evil would kick in and if they have a + 5 weapon then neither apply.
If a creature has damage reduction from more than one source, the two forms of damage reduction do not stack. Instead, the creature gets the benefit of the best damage reduction in a given situation.
Marie
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Actually Chosen of Desna Marie is partially right only the highest effective DR is applied i.e. 10/Good and 5/evil the Good would apply if the weapon or critter has Good aligned attacks then the Evil would kick in and if they have a + 5 weapon then neither apply.
pg. 562 core wrote:If a creature has damage reduction from more than one source, the two forms of damage reduction do not stack. Instead, the creature gets the benefit of the best damage reduction in a given situation.
Thanks for clarifying :). That's actually what I meant by having both types of DR (that either could apply depending on the situation, not that they would add), I didn't realize my wording was confusing.
| Chosen of Desna |
Thanks for your explanations.
Our mini-campaign will stop around level 6 (after Revenge of the Kobold King or Hungry are the Dead), so for now I don't have to worry about different types of DR. I think that he will get more out of DR/good as they are very unlikely to fight against the good guys.
I just thought it was kind of strange that those creatures would then possess both DR/good and DR/evil. Maybe I just disregard the alignment that they would get via the Summon Monster spells and houserule that these creatures are true neutral instead. I'm not yet sure about that.