Snake Style and AC bonuses


Rules Questions

Liberty's Edge

Does anything stack onto the "sense motive AC" from snake style, such as fighting defensively, deflection bonuses, Monk's WIS bonus, dodge bonuses? Or is it how it looks in that what you roll is what you got?


Salabrian wrote:
Does anything stack onto the "sense motive AC" from snake style, such as fighting defensively, deflection bonuses, Monk's WIS bonus, dodge bonuses? Or is it how it looks in that what you roll is what you got?

Snake Style (Combat, Style): "You can use the result as your AC or touch AC against that attack."

Under Armor Class it says "Your AC is equal to the following:

10 + armor bonus + shield bonus + Dexterity modifier + other modifiers"

So I think by RAW, the Sense Motive check replaces your AC, including "other modifiers" which includes dodge bonuses, deflection, etc.

Liberty's Edge

Grick wrote:
Salabrian wrote:
Does anything stack onto the "sense motive AC" from snake style, such as fighting defensively, deflection bonuses, Monk's WIS bonus, dodge bonuses? Or is it how it looks in that what you roll is what you got?

Snake Style (Combat, Style): "You can use the result as your AC or touch AC against that attack."

Under Armor Class it says "Your AC is equal to the following:

10 + armor bonus + shield bonus + Dexterity modifier + other modifiers"

So I think by RAW, the Sense Motive check replaces your AC, including "other modifiers" which includes dodge bonuses, deflection, etc.

Looks good to me.


So what about using Snake Sidewind, In place of an attack roll for a critical confirmation you can use a sense motive check... would this not stack with my halfinh's Low Blow racial trait?


ConcentricO wrote:
So what about using Snake Sidewind, In place of an attack roll for a critical confirmation you can use a sense motive check... would this not stack with my halfinh's Low Blow racial trait?

Low Blow: "Halflings with this racial trait gain a +1 bonus on critical confirmation rolls against opponents larger than themselves."

Critical Hits: "To find out if it's a critical hit, you immediately make an attempt to “confirm” the critical hit—another attack roll with all the same modifiers as the attack roll you just made."

Snake Sidewind (Combat): "While using the Snake Style feat, whenever you score a critical threat with your unarmed strike, you can make a Sense Motive check in place of the attack roll to confirm the critical hit."

When using that aspect of Snake Sidewind, you are not making an attack roll, you are making a Sense Motive check. Since Low Blow only applies to critical confirmation rolls, which are attack rolls, it does not apply to your Sense Motive check. Any other bonuses to attack rolls (Bless, flanking, higher ground, magic weapons, etc.) will not apply either. (But bonuses to Sense Motive checks will apply)

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