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Is there any rule that might prevent my lion shaman's witch cohort from riding him while wild shaped into a tiger? (Get the laughs out now) I assume an appropriate "saddle" would be required. This could easily be stored in our portable hole.
If so, could she deliver melee touch attacks against adjacent foes despite the tiger occupying a 10ft square? Is a tiger considered to be ill-suited for a mount?
You can do so. I think no saddle just means a ride check penalty and you for sure fall of the mount if it dies, it's not technically needed.
You'd count as occupying all the squares the druid does, as you can shift position on the mount, and so touch any squares adjacent to her.
Have fun, my friend and I love making character duos where one of them uses the other as a mount! Just get clarification from the DM on how initiative will work. Usual rule is "both roll, and higher delays to act when the lower rolled person does." RAW two characters can't act simultaneously, but that rule kinda gets quietly taken out back behind the shed and shot, lest mounted combat would be impossible.
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You can do so. I think no saddle just means a ride check penalty and you for sure fall of the mount if it dies, it's not technically needed.
I couldn't find any information about a saddle being required. It certainly would be easier without.
You'd count as occupying all the squares the druid does, as you can shift position on the mount, and so touch any squares adjacent to her.
This is good news.
Have fun, my friend and I love making character duos where one of them uses the other as a mount! Just get clarification from the DM on how initiative will work. Usual rule is "both roll, and higher delays to act when the lower rolled person does." RAW two characters can't act simultaneously, but that rule kinda gets quietly taken out back behind the shed and shot, lest mounted combat would be impossible.
I plan to have the witch cohort hold her action in most cases until after my druid has acted.
As I can't justify taking the Wild Shape feat to talk while wild shaped, I'm seriously considering investing in a permanent telepathic bond spell between the two characters. Oh, how I'd cry if it were dispelled.
One more interesting note is that the rider can make a Ride check to use the mount as cover as an immediate action. The DC is 15 (DC 20 while bareback), but +4 AC can be helpful.
Also, obligatory motivational poster. (warning: adult language, I guess)
If so, could she deliver melee touch attacks against adjacent foes despite the tiger occupying a 10ft square? Is a tiger considered to be ill-suited for a mount?
Its actually easier, since she's in every square the tiger is, she covers a larger area and it gives her more squares she can attack.
Of course it also gives her more squares to be attacked FROM.
ill suited to a mount is a dm's call, but there's really no grounds for saying a tiger is unsuited. Its a damned big quadruped and thats all the qualification anything else needs to be ridden. The existence of the exotic saddle indicates that things besides horses are supposed to be ridden.
Under the ride skill
Special: If you are riding bareback, you take a –5 penalty on Ride checks.
You would probably need to flip for the exotic saddle. At your level you should have that much gold mixed in with the barbarians belly button lint. The druid can show up in form to be fitted by the leather worker. He should probably get some barding while he's at it.
Saddle, Military: This saddle braces the rider, providing a +2 circumstance bonus on Ride checks related to staying in the saddle. If you're knocked unconscious while in a military saddle, you have a 75% chance to stay in the saddle.
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Also, obligatory motivational poster. (warning: adult language, I guess)
And this tiger can cast flame strike, b&+&+es!
This thread made me wonder, thanks to Golden Axe: Revenge of Death Adder - does human count as a valid form for a centaur druid to wildshape into?
Also, obligatory motivational poster. (warning: adult language, I guess)And this tiger can cast flame strike, b@&#!es!
Or just use Produce Flame to have flaming paws and mouth!
... Is a tiger considered to be ill-suited for a mount?
Depends how much 'realism' you and you GM want in this fantasy game.
It's been a long time since I read about it, but iirc someone did a study about this once. There was some legend about some African queen or warrior that rode a tiger into battle. Study showed that because of the way a tiger's spine and joints work it would be nearly impossible to stay on a running tiger. If the rider was tied on well enough to stay in place, something as heavy as a human would probably break the tiger's back since it is not designed to support weight at that point. It is probably one of the weakest points on a tiger. I don't remember all the details but you could probably find it if you really wanted to.
Having said all that, few people seem to want that much 'realism' in their fantasy game anyhow. I mean there are already people riding dogs, sharks, wyverns, dragons, wolves, sea horses, bats, dolphins, and dinosaurs most of which are probably even less capable of carraying a rider. So I would let it be as long as you don't go to far. If the rider were a 300 pound half-orc wearing dwarven stone plate I would give you a 'I don't think so'
Best riders are Sohei Monks or Barbarians with the Ferocious Mount rage power tree.
Or if your GM lets a humanoid ride on the shoulders of another humanoid two size categories larger a permanent reduce personed gnome barbarian riding a dwarven sohei riding a tiger shaped druid because as written Ferocious Mount, Greater causes rage powers to cascade down mount stacks.
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Yo dawg I hurd u liek mounts so we put a mount on ur mount on ur mount on yer mount on amount so you can keep tally while you ride a dwarf while it rides a druid while it mounts a tiger while wildshaped on a mountain.
My druid would be OK with another PC riding her (no jokes, please) in a pinch but she damn sure ain't wearing no saddle.