Spell preperation, rest, and 15 mins of concentration


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I'm sure this must have been covered somewhere, but i am not able to find where.... so heres asking. In the core rules the magic section says wizards need 8 hours rest and an hours study time to get their full spell allotment. Clerics and druids don't need sleep but need an hours prayer time. Sorcerors and bards need 8 hours rest and 15 mins of deep thought or music/performance. Fine so far. In the advanced players guide, however, the only class that seems to need any sleep is the witch, who gains spells like a wizard, but studying her familiar, not a book. All i can see for summoners, inquisitors and oracles, however, is that they can cast any spell they know at any time. Does this mean they need no rest and no focus time? or do we assume that the summoner works like the other spontaneous arcane spell casters and needs rest and a bit of concentration? If so where does this leave the inquisitor and the oracle, as divine casters? Can they really just go without rest or any need to get prayer time or concentration time in? Also channeling seems to suggest you can channel a certain number of times a day, but does the 8 hour rule apply for recent casting as it does for spells? or do you just get your full allotment again after praying (in the case of a cleric) or sleeping (for necromancer etc).If the classes in advanced players don't need the rest thats a real advantage for the summoner and even being able to ditch an hour prayer can be a big advantage when your running low on spells and time..... so if anyone out there can clarify for me would be great.


Demonique wrote:
All i can see for summoners, inquisitors and oracles, however, is that they can cast any spell they know at any time. Does this mean they need no rest and no focus time? or do we assume that the summoner works like the other spontaneous arcane spell casters and needs rest and a bit of concentration?

You are correct at least as far as the PRD goes. This is not explicitly defined. I would rule that summoners work like sorcerers as far as rest and spell recuperation.

Demonique wrote:
If so where does this leave the inquisitor and the oracle, as divine casters? Can they really just go without rest or any need to get prayer time or concentration time in?

Again not stated in the PRD but I would say inquisitors and oracles work just like clerics. They both have a divine source for their spells so it would make sense that they need to perform some kind of ritual and rest to regain them.

Demonique wrote:


Also channeling seems to suggest you can channel a certain number of times a day, but does the 8 hour rule apply for recent casting as it does for spells? or do you just get your full allotment again after praying (in the case of a cleric) or sleeping (for necromancer etc).

Since Channel Energy and Power over Undead are both Su abilities you just get the full allotment after 24 hours, you don't even need to rest. No other Su ability that I know of requires 8 hours of rest to regain.


Thanks for your reply, sounds like they haven't really stated it clearly anywhere, so have to discuss in house to make sure everyone knows how the rest and study rules will work for the advanced player classes. Ah well.... maybe I just know too many players who will try to exploit the gap.

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