
knightstar4 |

In the process of creating a new nation in the game world I'm running, I've had to put some thoughts to the laws and punishments of the land. For murder, all possessions acquired, distributed to next of kin of victim/s and death by crucifixion.
But wait, a player character was murdered. They caught the murderer and instead of killing them, they gave the murderers to the authorities and had their companion raised.
Well, he was killed, so that goes under that law, but he was raised, so that makes a little quirk for the law doesn't it?
So how do you think the ability to resurrect someone would effect the laws of the land in general, let alone other magic abilities that would change normal circumstances for consequences of actions and punishments for them?

Liam Warner |
Forgive the trite answer but its up to you to decide what you want. In my games there's never been a hard and fast set of laws but some examples to help you out. These aren't all in the same kingdom obviously just different examples of what someone might do.
General Rules
1) If magic is used to undo a crime e.g. repairing a broken object, raising the dead etc the crime is still counted as having happened and thus a person can be held accountable.
2) If magic is used to secure a conviction it must be cast by a court appointed mage, magic cast by a normal member of the populace is not admissable in a court of law.
3) Magic can only be used by those who have been officially liscened, unlawful mages face fines for a first imprissonment and death for a second. Liscences are awarded for specific fields e.g. battle, construction, healing etc.
4) Magic is an abomination unto god and anyone suspected of possesing it is stripped of all rights and sentenced to death.
Resurection and Property
1a) A person who is judged to have "died" has a period of X amount of time to present themself before a magistrate of the king/queen/emperor before their property is distributed in accordance with their will.
1b) The time they have to present themself depends on their duties. An adventurer who will be in far off locations with unreliable communication will have the most time 6 months to a year. A member of the local court with important duties such as the king themself will only have a day or two as someone has to take over the duties.
2) A line of succession must be maintained and thus a person who is resurected is only able to claim their possesions, title etc if special dispensation is given by a local court official as normally all these things pass on to the next of kin.
3) A person who is resurected is counted as undead and has no rights and should be killed as soon as possible.
Punishments
1) Those who have commited class 1 crimes are punished by mundane means. Class 1 crimes are the "low" crimes of a realm stealing a loaf of bread to feed your starving family, mugging someone for loose change etc Those who have commited class 2 crimes are punished by magical means. Class 2 crimes are the "high" crimes of a realm. For example using magic in a theft, abusing a noble etc. The disctinction here is less a matter of degree as a matter of the potential risk in dealing with the being. If someone mugged a young prince out on the town by slamming a sock with a half brick into the back of his head it'd be a class 1 because it used solely mundane means. If the prince was robbed by mind controlling magic it'd be a class 2 crime because mundane means can't be used to deal with him.
2) Magic is used in all punishments a person who abuses the orphans under their care is turned into a kid and treated the same way. A man who rapes a woman is turned into one.
3) Magic can be used to undo or nullify most punishments e.g. regrowing a hand severed for thievery so all crimes from the most minor to the most severe all receive a universal imprisonment as in the spell or having their soul ripped out and kept in a gem tossed into in a room full of them so no one can be sure they've got the right one.

Saint Caleth |

I think that if the victim were raised it should logically be his/her prerogative to press charges. At the very least it should be very easy to sue the murderer for the cost of the resurrection. In fact in a particularly enlightened country, perhaps the default punishment for murder is to pay to raise the victim either by fine or a period of indentured servitude and only if the victim cannot be brought back are any harsher sanctions applied.
However, this depends highly on the legal sophistication of the kingdom. In my examples above I am assuming a fairly modern system of justice, or at the very least one resembling that of Ancient Rome.
I would also say that using magic to reverse a lawful punishment (regenerating a hand severed for theft or raising someone who was executed) would in any sophisticated high-magic society be a crime in and of itself. Probably punishable by a fine or prison sentence and at worst prosecuted as an accessory to the original crime.

Kolokotroni |

It starts with your general laws. Just because something can be undone doesn't make it not a crime. If I throw a brick through a shop window, it doesnt make it not a crime because they can get it fixed.
So really its a matter of whether or not your society treats murder and attempted murder differently. At the very least by a modern standard, killing someone who is then raised/ressurected should be attempted murder. But honestly, unless you have a really complex legal system I wouldn't treat them differently.

HappyDaze |
Everyone is going for the 'lawful' society's view, but within a 'chaotic' society reversal of the harm likely mitigates the crime, especially in cases of accidental or collateral damage. If you accidentally harm someone with your fireball while toasting bad guys then providing healing to the poor slob is likely the only 'punishment' required. OTOH, if you intentionally fireballed him, then things get a lot less simple.

Selgard |

I agree with the above poster.
Whether or not the guy gets raised later has nothing to do with the fact that someone murdered him in cold blood in his sleep.
As for how justice system should handle it:
Murder gets the gallows. Possessions get either 1) sold to pay for the raising of the victim and compensate for their trouble. or 2) if not enough possessions to get a raise, the cash goes to their family or failing that, to their faith.. or failing that, to the poor.
Though I have to admit I thought this was going to be a thread about using magic as punishment/incarceration rather than what it turned into.
It could be interesting though- if you killed someone in self defense they could then be raised, tried, and possibly killed for their crime.
Someone killed by mistake could be raised and the mistake actually rectified. The same is true of destroyed property. Rather than paying the cost of replacement you could just pay the cost of repair (if cheaper and/or practicable).
Depending on the alignment of the society (or of the dictatorship, as appropriate) dead criminals could be Animated to perform menial labor the nobles didn't want to do, or to provide Martial assistance to the armies of the land. (or failing that- they could at least dig their own graves. lol)
-S