Gauntlet

[Lost Soul]

Another quick question:

The gauntlet's description (http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/weapon-descriptions/gaun tlet) says that "A strike with a gauntlet is otherwise considered an unarmed attack"

Could a monk use enchanted gauntlets to give himself an enhancement bonus to unarmed strikes instead of an Amulet of Mighty Fists? Obviously, it would do 1d3 damage (plus whatever damage enhancements) and not the monk's unarmed strike damage.

EDIT: that would be for the purpose of having an enhanced to-hit chance when, say, using Snake Fang, and/or when delivering Stunning Fists attempts without Cornugon Strike or whatever it's called.

[Richard Leonhart]

for the moment there is no weapon you can enhance that uses your unarmed damage, you're stuck with the amulet of mighty fists.

[Karelzarath]

Warrior shot the food!

[Lost Soul]

Richard Leonhart wrote:

for the moment there is no weapon you can enhance that uses your unarmed damage, you're stuck with the amulet of mighty fists.

Yeah, I realize that. But reading the gauntlet's description, the attack is still an unarmed attack (it just doesn't do the monk's unarmed damage, as written it just replaces the unarmed damage with that 1d3 roll while still remaining an unarmed attack.

[Jiggy]

There's been a lot of debate on the topic of unarmed strikes, gauntlets, spiked gauntlets, cestuseseses, brass knuckles, and so forth. I believe at one point Sean K Reynolds came out and said that they were all supposed to be light weapons and not interact with unarmed strikes at all, but on the other hand (see what I did there?) that was (IIRC) before the APG came out with a reprint of the cestus that still referred to unarmed strikes...

So yeah. It's pretty much all jacked up beyond hope.

If this is for a home game, just work something out with your GM. If it's for PFS, go the "safe" route and assume that glove-style weapons and unarmed strikes don't interact in any way whatsoever.

That's my best advice to you.

[blackbloodtroll]

I am trying to recall the post APG post in which SKR restated that there are no "unarmed strike" weapons, maybe it was James. I am frustrated by the fact that this true, especially when things like the emei piercer pop up in UC.
I feel the pain too, but I am sorry, it's true.

[Lost Soul]

blackbloodtroll wrote:

I am trying to recall the post APG post in which SKR restated that there are no "unarmed strike" weapons, maybe it was James. I am frustrated by the fact that this true, especially when things like the emei piercer pop up in UC.

I feel the pain too, but I am sorry, it's true.

That would be this post, then?

http://paizo.com/store/games/roleplayingGames/p/pathfinderRPG/paizo/pathfin derCompanion/v5748btpy8dmf/discuss&page=12#550

Thanks for the help in tracking down the info.