Holy Vindicator's Stigmata and Ring of Regeneration


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Simple question with hopefully a simple answer. Does a Ring of Regeneration make a Holy Vindicator immune to his own bleed damage while his stigmata are open? Relevant text here:

APG wrote:
Stigmata (Su): A vindicator willingly gives his blood in service to his faith, and is marked by scarified wounds appropriate to his deity. He may stop or start the flow of blood by force of will as a standard action; at 6th level it becomes a move action, and at 10th level it becomes a swift action. Activating stigmata causes bleed damage equal to half the vindicator's class level, and this bleed damage is not halted by curative magic.
CRB wrote:
Ring of Regeneration: This white gold ring is generally set with a large green sapphire. When worn, the ring continually allows a living wearer to heal 1 point of damage per round and an equal amount of nonlethal damage. In addition, he is immune to bleed damage while wearing a ring of regeneration. If the wearer loses a limb, an organ, or any other body part while wearing this ring, the ring regenerates it as the spell. In either case, only damage taken while wearing the ring is regenerated.

Bolded emphasis is my own, hoping to know how these two things interact.


Joseph Caubo wrote:

Simple question with hopefully a simple answer. Does a Ring of Regeneration make a Holy Vindicator immune to his own bleed damage while his stigmata are open? Relevant text here:

APG wrote:
Stigmata (Su): A vindicator willingly gives his blood in service to his faith, and is marked by scarified wounds appropriate to his deity. He may stop or start the flow of blood by force of will as a standard action; at 6th level it becomes a move action, and at 10th level it becomes a swift action. Activating stigmata causes bleed damage equal to half the vindicator's class level, and this bleed damage is not halted by curative magic.
CRB wrote:
Ring of Regeneration: This white gold ring is generally set with a large green sapphire. When worn, the ring continually allows a living wearer to heal 1 point of damage per round and an equal amount of nonlethal damage. In addition, he is immune to bleed damage while wearing a ring of regeneration. If the wearer loses a limb, an organ, or any other body part while wearing this ring, the ring regenerates it as the spell. In either case, only damage taken while wearing the ring is regenerated.
Bolded emphasis is my own, hoping to know how these two things interact.

I would say your stigmata do not work. You do not give your blood in service as it is expected to gain the benefit. Since this is a religious/divine thing, you should not get the benefit :-)

The Exchange

I guess I was looking more for a response if someone would consider a ring of regeneration or periapt of wound closure counts as "curative magics," thus not negating the bleed damage from the stigmata (AKA so you can't have your stigmata up all the time and suffer no penalty). From a purely flavor standpoint I agree, but unfortunately for PFS you need some RAW/RAI to make these rulings.


Your immunity to bleed with ring or regeneration is curative magic (conjuration healing) so the stigmata still works as your immunity doesn't work on the Stigmata. Still any bleed damage you take can be healed by the fast healing 1 provided by the ring of regeneration given enough time.

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