Samurai Starting Wealth


Pathfinder First Edition General Discussion


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Why is it that the starting wealth for a Samurai is less than the starting wealth of a Cavalier?


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Huh, I'd never noticed that before. My first inclination would be that it's an error. Starting wealth is based primarily on how much junk a character needs at the beginning of the game (in particular, how spendy the armor they're likely to buy is.) Flavor also appears to play a small role in it, and the whole system turns out kind of dubious because basic ranged weapons are inexplicably more expensive than anything else. Flavor also plays a small role, but there's no part of the flavor of a samurai that suggests that he'd be especially poor compared to, like, a fighter.

Full BAB armored classes get 175 across the board, except for the barbarian, who I assume is being Arbitrarily Hosed By Flavor (TM). That the Samurai is poor to begin with for no clear reason strikes me as either an editing error, a mystifying flavor choice, or - this one's pretty unlikely - an assignment made without understanding of why starting wealth works the way it does.


It certainly isn't historically accurate. Samurai were often part of the ruling class.

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Buri wrote:
It certainly isn't historically accurate. Samurai were often part of the ruling class.

And Sorcerers were part of ...?


The class that often got staked, stoned, drowned and burned by more than one society. The more nomadic the society, the more likely it was to have mystics. However, the more organized or secular the society the more those types of people were shunned.

Grand Lodge

Joyd wrote:

Huh, I'd never noticed that before. My first inclination would be that it's an error. Starting wealth is based primarily on how much junk a character needs at the beginning of the game (in particular, how spendy the armor they're likely to buy is.) Flavor also appears to play a small role in it, and the whole system turns out kind of dubious because basic ranged weapons are inexplicably more expensive than anything else. Flavor also plays a small role, but there's no part of the flavor of a samurai that suggests that he'd be especially poor compared to, like, a fighter.

Full BAB armored classes get 175 across the board, except for the barbarian, who I assume is being Arbitrarily Hosed By Flavor (TM). That the Samurai is poor to begin with for no clear reason strikes me as either an editing error, a mystifying flavor choice, or - this one's pretty unlikely - an assignment made without understanding of why starting wealth works the way it does.

Flagged it - I'd like to think its an oversight.

Asian armours ARE cheaper but Katana and Wakazashi as a pair are insanely expensive.


Was an answer ever given for this?


The Thing from Beyond the Edge wrote:
Was an answer ever given for this?

It does not appear so.


It may be an attempt to balance the increased power of the samurai class over the cavalier at low levels when the teamwork abilities of the cavalier become useful.

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