Two handed fighter questions

[Sean Brown]

I've tried searching for this stuff, but no matter what I search for, it's says there is nothing on it (even topics I know have posts...), so sory if these have been asked/answered already.

Having trouble sorting out what abilities are used when.

Playing a fighter with the two handed build. Greatsword, including feats cleave, great cleave, power attack and cleaving finish. Also have overhand chop. So my questions are..

1)is the damage from overhand chop in addition to the 50% bonus to strength damage I already get from wielding with two hands? Ie. my str bonus is +6, so when I do one attack, do I add 9+12=21, or just the 12 (higher bonus?).

2)is overhand chop damage multiplied on a crit?

3) overhand chop says it's applied only if you make a single attack in a round. Let's say I charge, hit someone, the deal damage. Obviously I then add the extra damage. What happens if I then cleave? Does that negates the extra damage ,as it's now another attack? If it doesn't negate the extra damage on the first strike, is it then applied to any other hits that may happen through great cleave? What happens if you make an attack of opportunity? Do you have to go back and subtract that extra damage?

My interpretation to date has been..

1). The two damages are added together, since it doesn't state that damage replaces the normal +50% yo usually get. So it would be +21

2) yes

3). Not 100% sure what I think yet. I'm leaning towards saying that cleaves and aoo's don't count as extra attacks for this ability (despite the wording calling them attacks), solely because going back in time to undo damage already done is a pain in the butt, and I don't think it falls under what's "normal" for the game.

I realize many people will have opinions on what they'd let into their game, butid like to try to keep this to a "I think X is permitted by the rules as written because of Y"

Appreciate any input on this.

[Halfling Barbarian]

1) I would say no. You only apply bonus damage from strength once. The benefit of this ability is that you get double strength instead of 1.5x.

2) Yes, of course.

3) Cleave takes a standard action to use, and is defined as a single attack. I would say that overhand chop does apply.

[Archaeik]

Overhand Chop (Ex)

At 3rd level, when a two-handed fighter makes a single attack (with the attack action or a charge) with a two-handed weapon, he adds double his Strength bonus on damage rolls.

This ability replaces Armor Training 1.

1. RAW, I can see the argument for your position
RAI, it absolutely replaces the normal +50% with +100%

2. yes

3. I bolded the part above. RAW, it only works with the actions specified
RAI, not totally sure, but if other standard actions like vital strike should count, the first attack of a cleave isn't outlandish
(However, given the flavor/fluff of the ability, any cleave target would need to be directly below the first - just saying)

For myself, this ability would NOT function on cleave, and definitely not on AoOs

[Sean Brown]

Thanks for the thoughs all. Much appreciated