| Xabulba |
I'm sure a bunch of you have heard about the Megaupload take-down the following day and gave the rebuttal, "looks like they didn't need SOPA/PIPA after all."
No, they sure didn't.
They invoked RICO.
Modern day pirates taken down with 40 year old laws, that is amazing. It also goes to show everyone what SOPA and PIPA where all about, giving the music/film industries sole legal dominion over internet content.
Studpuffin
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Studpuffin wrote:@Meatrace: ????????????????????????????????????What exactly are you question marking me for?
Can you be more cogent?
I don't quite understand your position on why it is that the people who created the definition for Santorum aren't being credited at the same time that it is expressed that internet culture in general helped to propagate it? I find a complete disconnect in what you're saying, perhaps you could explain differently?
| meatrace |
meatrace wrote:I don't quite understand your position on why it is that the people who created the definition for Santorum aren't being credited at the same time that it is expressed that internet culture in general helped to propagate it? I find a complete disconnect in what you're saying, perhaps you could explain differently?Studpuffin wrote:@Meatrace: ????????????????????????????????????What exactly are you question marking me for?
Can you be more cogent?
The Slaad said that "the internet community" as nebulous a term as that is, redefined Santorum.
The internet community at large did not. Dan Savage, an advice columnist, did.
Saying that the "internet community" did it without mentioning the party originally responsible was unfair to them. It's akin to saying that "the internet community" made the Chocolate Rain video. They popularized it, perhaps, but they didn't create it.
I'm just asking that credit is given to the originator of the phrase.
| thunderspirit |
The Slaad said that "the internet community" as nebulous a term as that is, redefined Santorum.
The internet community at large did not. Dan Savage, an advice columnist, did.
Saying that the "internet community" did it without mentioning the party originally responsible was unfair to them. It's akin to saying that "the internet community" made the Chocolate Rain video. They popularized it, perhaps, but they didn't create it.
I'm just asking that credit is given to the originator of the phrase.
I'm not meatrace, but I think it's worth noting that Savage deserves credit for his intellectual property (so to speak), regardless of whether the Internet community at large was responsible for the term gaining notoriety.
Also, I like the irony of discussing attribution of intellectual property in this thread. :-)
| meatrace |
Hmmm, I do believe that there is an implied meaning in her words to credit the source as part of her statement. That'd include the creator as part of that community.
Besides, it seems to be kind of personal for you. Maybe I shouldn't ask.
Not...really. How is crediting the creator implicit in, basically, crediting everyone.
It's not personal, really. No more than I'm a fan of Dan Savage and have been reading his column for 16 years now.
I'm not sure what the issue is with giving credit to the originator of something.
| meatrace |
meatrace wrote:The Slaad said that "the internet community" as nebulous a term as that is, redefined Santorum.
The internet community at large did not. Dan Savage, an advice columnist, did.
Saying that the "internet community" did it without mentioning the party originally responsible was unfair to them. It's akin to saying that "the internet community" made the Chocolate Rain video. They popularized it, perhaps, but they didn't create it.
I'm just asking that credit is given to the originator of the phrase.
I'm not meatrace, but I think it's worth noting that Savage deserves credit for his intellectual property (so to speak), regardless of whether the Internet community at large was responsible for the term gaining notoriety.
Also, I like the irony of discussing attribution of intellectual property in this thread. :-)
Rick Santorum has only recently become a household name with his presidential bid. His name has meant "a frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that sometimes is the product of anal sex" since 2003. Spreadingsantorum.com has been the top google result for Santorum since 2003. Most of my friends have used the term Santorum in that context since them, or were aware of the definition.
When people talk about Santorum's "google problem" it's too polite in the extreme. They should call it his "bigoted a$~#+~@" problem.
| thunderspirit |
When people talk about Santorum's "google problem" it's too polite in the extreme. They should call it his "bigoted a%#&@+!" problem.
Regrettably, too many people do not see Santorum being a bigoted a$$#@+ as a "problem." Those people seem to see it as a validation of their own bigoted a$$#@+ -ness, and that it must be okay for them to be a bigoted a$$#@+ if someone can run for President on such a platform.
(But this now is wandering waaaaay off-topic.)
| A highly regarded expert |
This video is interesting, but it's 18 minutes long. FF to 12:00 or so for the legal talk.
Studpuffin
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Studpuffin wrote:Hmmm, I do believe that there is an implied meaning in her words to credit the source as part of her statement. That'd include the creator as part of that community.
Besides, it seems to be kind of personal for you. Maybe I shouldn't ask.
Not...really. How is crediting the creator implicit in, basically, crediting everyone.
It's not personal, really. No more than I'm a fan of Dan Savage and have been reading his column for 16 years now.
I'm not sure what the issue is with giving credit to the originator of something.
Because the creator is a subset of everyone. QED. Hehehehe :P
| Ambrosia Slaad |
While I didn't intend to imply that "santorum" was some spontaneous meme from Netizens, perhaps erring in automatically thinking those familiar with the meme and website would already know of Savage's re-definition of the surname, it did all start with Savage and his loyal readers. My apologies if that omission caused any confusion or consternation among participants of this thread.
My goal was merely to attempt to remind thread readers that when acting together, we can actually sometimes help shape the national discussion and even affect change.
Edit: And thanks, Studpuffin. :)
| Ambrosia Slaad |
stormraven wrote:And all this time i thought the nra was trying to arm bears.. not deer..BigNorseWolf wrote:In north america, deer kill more people than wolves.Blame the NRA. They're the ones who gave the deer assault rifles and a will to kill.
I'm pretty sure potential PotUSoSC candidate, Stephen Colbert is secretly funding arms to the all Ruminantia freedom fighters as a means of preventing the Ursine Menace from rising up to eat humanity.
| Drejk |
And well he should! They are consistently in the top three on the Threat Down list. :)
Let us not forget that Polar Bears were guiding the iceberg that sank the Titanic - Operation North Sea Buffet.
Antropophagic Dire Penguins are happy to learn that their misinformation campaign about the incident was successful and are eager to use Polar Bears as scapegoats again in their future enterprises.
| Ambrosia Slaad |
While SOPA and PIPA have been shelved (at least until they return as riders on some other bill), Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) has sponsored the OPEN Act (more info). Reaction so far seems mixed, although Big Content seems to hate it.
The US government and Big Content are still secretly arm-twisting for implementation of ACTA by world governments, but it still isn't getting much (if any) major press here in the US.
| Necromancer |
While SOPA and PIPA have been shelved (at least until they return as riders on some other bill), Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) has sponsored the OPEN Act (more info). Reaction so far seems mixed, although Big Content seems to hate it.
The US government and Big Content are still secretly arm-twisting for implementation of ACTA by world governments, but it still isn't getting much (if any) major press here in the US.
unsure if this was posted already...
Don't forget PCIP. I guess they assume that using an imflammatory name will keep the opposition at bay; silly lobbyists and wannabe tyrants, we have acronyms for that.
| thejeff |
unsure if this was posted already...
Don't forget PCIP. I guess they assume that using an imflammatory name will keep the opposition at bay; silly lobbyists and wannabe tyrants, we have acronyms for that.
That gets a pretty high BANANAS rating.