Vengeance Witch Patron for Winter Witch

[Jen the GM]

Lots of the spells that Vengeance gives are fire descriptor spells, which is an issue, because winter witches cannot learn or cast spells with the fire descriptor. Does this mean that they get no benefit from the spells with fire descriptors on the patron?

And related question, does that mean that a witch cannot get a cold descriptor scorching ray, since the main spell is copied before metamagic can be applied?

[ShadowcatX]

Yes, they really should choose a patron without fire spells if they want to be a winter witch. A nice DM, however, could let them sub out the spells or even just convert them to a cold version.