| Vasantasena |
Morgen wrote:Correct, your weapon continues to deal it's normal damage while delivering a spell strike.I appreciate your answer but, is there a post, book or something that I can use as proof. I get in arguments over this and I always loose.
Hi, as a fellow Magus I think you are mistaken. Because a level 1 Spellstriken Shocking Grasp is channeled through a weapon and if you Arcane Pooled a Weapon with Shock, although is the same kind of damage they dont add/stack themselves up with Spellstrike.
Because they come from two different sources.And have to be considered separately for purposes of Metamagic Spells (like empowering a 5d6 Shocking Grasp (and not adding the Shock weapon). And for purposes of energy resistance.
Hope this helps :)
Morgen
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Well it's right in the Spellstrike description ShadowDax.
Spellstrike (Su): At 2nd level, whenever a magus casts a spell with a range of “touch” from the magus spell list, he can deliver the spell through any weapon he is wielding as part of a melee attack. Instead of the free melee touch attack normally allowed to deliver the spell, a magus can make one free melee attack with his weapon (at his highest base attack bonus) as part of casting this spell. If successful, this melee attack deals its normal damage as well as the effects of the spell. If the magus makes this attack in concert with spell combat, this melee attack takes all the penalties accrued by spell combat melee attacks. This attack uses the weapon's critical range (20, 19–20, or 18–20 and modified by the keen weapon property or similar effects), but the spell effect only deals ×2 damage on a successful critical hit, while the weapon damage uses its own critical modifier.
There is nothing in Spellstrike that suggests anything to the opposite. I'm wondering how others are trying to win that particular argument what with nothing in the rules even suggesting that somehow the spell over rides the magic of your weapon.
| Gwyrdallan |
damage is not a bonus type. The stacking rules do not apply. Does this group also rule that only the most damageing of the fighter's attacks applys? The sword does its damage (including the shock quality), and the spell does its damage. There is no stacking or not stacking involved, merely 2 effects that do damage.
Although, as vasantasena mentioned, energy resistance would apply to both of them seperately, and any metamagic effect would only effect the spell. Really the best way to think of it is if you stabbed them with the sword, then cast a spell.
| Grick |
Is the damage the same with the spell Elemental Touch or, does it do damage as a sword compared to doing damage as a spell?
I'm not sure what you mean, here, but Elemental Touch does not have a range of "Touch" (it's Personal) so it cannot be used with Spellstrike.