Immortality vs. petrification


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What happens to an immortal character, such as a lich or a monk of the four winds, who is petrified?

Can they "respawn?" Or are they forever trapped? What about after smashing the resulting statue?

Shadow Lodge

Petrified is not dead, so they will not respawn. Same with an imprisoned immortal.


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TOZ wrote:
Petrified is not dead, so they will not respawn. Same with an imprisoned immortal.

What about after a good smashing?


I don't think a lich can be flesh to stoned.

Perhaps once you become a not-creature, you would respawb.

But at this point, we are getting into metaphysics.


What TOZ said. Even if you smash the statue to dust, they still aren't dead; theoretically, you could gather every particle of dust, cast make whole/mending, and then stone to flesh to restore the original creature.


Well, you can cast true resurrection on a corpse to bring it back from not-creatureness.


This comes up so often in campaigns, I'm surprised there's not an official answer yet.


Ravingdork wrote:


TOZ wrote:

Petrified is not dead, so they will not respawn. Same with an imprisoned immortal.

What about after a good smashing?

You have to destroy the Liche's phylactery to permanently destroy it. Otherwise once you smash the "statue" it would reform. Not sure on the Monk of the Four Winds.


Cheapy wrote:
Well, you can cast true resurrection on a corpse to bring it back from not-creatureness.

You could, but petrified creatures are explicitly not dead. That means no revivification magic will work on them. I suppose a wish + true resurrection would work.

Trikk wrote:
This comes up so often in campaigns, I'm surprised there's not an official answer yet.

Really? I wasn't aware people hit level 20 in a class with an automatic self-rez and then got petrified very often.


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Cheapy wrote:
I don't think a lich can be flesh to stoned.

I didn't say flesh to stone, I said petrification. Undead are not inherently immune to the petrified condition itself.

Shadow Lodge

Ravingdork wrote:
TOZ wrote:
Petrified is not dead, so they will not respawn. Same with an imprisoned immortal.
What about after a good smashing?

If it doesn't kill the victim, no. The glossary describes the character as unconscious, but does not mention anything causing death.


Ravingdork wrote:
Cheapy wrote:
I don't think a lich can be flesh to stoned.
I didn't say flesh to stone, I said petrification. Undead are not inherently immune to the petrified condition itself.

While technically true, all existing effects that render the target petrified I recall at the moment allow Fortitude saving throw and thus are unable to affect liches.

That aside I agree with the interpretation that petrified creature is not dead, even when smashed to pieces so no rejuvenation nor reincarnation ability of Four Wind Monk/Reincarnated Druid would be triggered. Only disintegration or smashing and then turning back to flesh would count as actual killing of petrified creature at my table.

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