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If you have the fast bombs discovery can you use the Breath Weapon Bomb discovery multiple times? (according to how many you would have via BAB)
Relevant quotes:
Fast bombs: An alchemist with this discovery can quickly create enough bombs to throw more than one in a single round. The alchemist can prepare and throw additional bombs as a full-round action if his base attack bonus is high enough to grant him additional attacks. This functions just like a full-attack with a ranged weapon. An alchemist must be at least 8th level before selecting this discovery.
Breath Weapon Bomb*: Instead of drawing the components of, creating, and throwing a bomb, the alchemist can draw the components, drink them, mix them within his body, and then expel them as a breath weapon as a standard action. This breath weapon is a 15-foot cone and has the same DC as the bomb. Each creature within the cone takes damage as if it had suffered a direct hit from the alchemist's bomb, but succeeding at a Reflex save (DC = 10 + 1/2 the alchemist's level + the alchemist's Intelligent modifier) halves the damage. Unlike throwing normal bombs, drawing, drinking, and expelling breath weapon bombs does not provoke attacks of opportunity. An alchemist must be at least 6th level before selecting this discovery.
I'm guessing not but I want peoples input.
the alchemist can draw the components, drink them, mix them within his body, and then expel them as a breath weapon as a standard action.
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Unlike throwing normal bombs, drawing, drinking, and expelling breath weapon bombs does not provoke attacks of opportunity.
It specifies that it's a standard action, then later mentions how it's not the same as throwing bombs. Both of which imply it can't be used with fast bombs.
Yeah as neat as it might be to allow it I'm with Grick on this one. Please note that it also does more damage per target than a normal bomb too.
"Instead of drawing the components of, creating, and throwing a bomb, the alchemist can draw the components, drink them, mix them within his body, and then expel them as a breath weapon"
I believe that this means it takes just as long, thus fast bombs should stack.
As Raw could go either way, I'll FAQ this.
Yeah, that's what I was thinking...
I mean it calls it out as a standard action.... but then again so does the Bomb ability, which is improved by Fast Bombs....
So for now I will rule it doesn't stack, but I am going to FAQ this as I would like to know the official interpretation if possible.
The image of some dude drinking a bunch of explosives and then putting a dragon to shame is hilarious. If it does work with fast bombs, it also works with two weapon fighting and rapid shot as fast bombs does.
KA-frikin-BOOOM!
Unfortunately, because it says that you expel the breath weapon as a standard action, I would say that it isn't throwing a bomb, so the ability to throw more bombs per round would be irrelevant since you could only expel the effects of one bomb per round.
Well, not totally irrelevant... you could always alternate on different turns depending on the circumstances... but yeah they don't appear to work together.