Does a spell like ability count as being able to cast a spell for feats?


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If someone has a 9th level spell they can cast as a spell like ability does this count for getting feats?

The feat in question is 'epic spellcasting' (from the 3.5 epic handbook).


Bladeace wrote:

If someone has a 9th level spell they can cast as a spell like ability does this count for getting feats?

The feat in question is 'epic spellcasting' (from the 3.5 epic handbook).

Nope. Otherwise balors, pit fiends, and other high-level outsiders would qualify as well for that particular requirement. Casting spells and using spell-like abilities are not the same thing.

For the life of me, I have no idea where it says that though. Been with PF for a long time, forget a lot of the 3.5 stuff.

*Edit*

Looked through some past 3.5 stuff, and there's really nothing saying this either way as far as I could find. Not even the online FAQ about spell-like abilities has anything like this. The issue is further muddied by Tome of Magic, which introduced the shadowcaster class whose spells ("mysteries") can function as either spells, spell-like abilities, or supernatural abilities.

In short, I think the spirit of Epic Spellcasting is to actually be able to CAST (like a wizard, cleric, or sorcerer) 9th-level spells. But rules-as-written? Who knows...


The RAW isn't clear on this issue, so the best idea is to house rule it. Whoever the GM is should think about whether the person in question would logically be able to do what the feat does, and decide the issue based on that.

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Bladeace wrote:

If someone has a 9th level spell they can cast as a spell like ability does this count for getting feats?

The feat in question is 'epic spellcasting' (from the 3.5 epic handbook).

that no.

if they "casted spells as a sorcerer" ala rakasha or dragon, then yes

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