Could a gnome or halfling knifemaster rogue use medium sized daggers (basically it would be a shortsword to them) and still get the knife master sneak attack bonus, and use river rat?
Yes, but there is a -2 penalty to attacks for using a weapon not of the appropriate size.
Yes, but there is a -2 penalty to attacks for using a weapon not of the appropriate size.
OK I wasn't sure if that still applied since, it was now the size of a short sword for them. Logically it made sense, but seemed a bit broken if it was ok
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Yes, but there is a -2 penalty to attacks for using a weapon not of the appropriate size.OK I wasn't sure if that still applied since, it was now the size of a short sword for them. Logically it made sense, but seemed a bit broken if it was ok
It still applies. That is to get around things like getting the dagger's P/S and calling it a short sword which only has S(slashing damage). It would also make sure weapons with special properties such as disarm did not get worked around, by just buying a different sized weapon, but applying the name you want to use for it.
So you want the bonus for daggers (knife master, river rat) with the increased damage of the shortsword? No sorry, doesn't work like that.
Also: a small character using a medium sized light weapon like a dagger, treats it as a one-handed weapon. So really bad for dual wielding.
In other words: a medium sized dagger is not the same as a small sized short sword. May do the same damage, but it's balance is different, the handle is too large etc, and it's just more awkward to use.
So using inapropriately sized weapons usually is a bad idea.
They would count as one-handed weapons...so he's taking -2 since they are not correctly sized, and a -4 for each hands attacks...thats WITH the TWF feat to help with the penalties
so -6 to hit just to up the damage by one die size? Don't think thats worth it bro :)
(nothing against knife masters though, my assassin is one)