| Elizaveta Vladimira |
My understanding is that the monsters in the Pathfinder Adventure Paths are open game content. I would like to know where I can find the stats for these creatures. Specifically, I would like off of the vampires. It's for something I've been talking to James Jacobs about: a PDF that both contains all the official Pathfinder vampires and a whole bunch of new ones straight from my brain, plus pre-gens. I've found a couple on the D20 PFSRD, but that's it. Is there somewhere I can find the rest?
| jreyst |
My understanding is that the monsters in the Pathfinder Adventure Paths are open game content. I would like to know where I can find the stats for these creatures. Specifically, I would like off of the vampires. It's for something I've been talking to James Jacobs about: a PDF that both contains all the official Pathfinder vampires and a whole bunch of new ones straight from my brain, plus pre-gens. I've found a couple on the D20 PFSRD, but that's it. Is there somewhere I can find the rest?
Yeah, in the Adventure Paths :)
| Elizaveta Vladimira |
Elizaveta Vladimira wrote:My understanding is that the monsters in the Pathfinder Adventure Paths are open game content. I would like to know where I can find the stats for these creatures. Specifically, I would like off of the vampires. It's for something I've been talking to James Jacobs about: a PDF that both contains all the official Pathfinder vampires and a whole bunch of new ones straight from my brain, plus pre-gens. I've found a couple on the D20 PFSRD, but that's it. Is there somewhere I can find the rest?Yeah, in the Adventure Paths :)
I don't use prepared adventures. I just need the monster stats so I can recompile them in the PDF (which James Jacobs confirms is permissible).
James Jacobs
Creative Director
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jreyst wrote:I don't use prepared adventures. I just need the monster stats so I can recompile them in the PDF (which James Jacobs confirms is permissible).Elizaveta Vladimira wrote:My understanding is that the monsters in the Pathfinder Adventure Paths are open game content. I would like to know where I can find the stats for these creatures. Specifically, I would like off of the vampires. It's for something I've been talking to James Jacobs about: a PDF that both contains all the official Pathfinder vampires and a whole bunch of new ones straight from my brain, plus pre-gens. I've found a couple on the D20 PFSRD, but that's it. Is there somewhere I can find the rest?Yeah, in the Adventure Paths :)
There's a lot more in the Adventure Paths than there are just adventures. I suspect that even if you're just buying a few to get the vampire stats, chances are good you'll find more in there as well. Pathfinder #8 has stats for the Nosferatu, but also has a neat article on how plagues and sickness work in a fantasy setting, as well as an article about Abadar. And several other new monsters. Pathfinder #29 has stats for the vrykolakas, but also has a handy article about fantasy RPG thieves' guilds and a big article about Asmodeus. And several other new monsters.
Needless to say, two adventures. Even if you don't use published adventures, I suspect you're always in need of maps—using maps from adventures saves you time and lets you focus on creating your own adventure. Or at the very least, published adventures are a VERY handy place to grab pre-build NPC stat blocks.
Anyway... yeah. The only place I know of that has these stats are in those two Adventure Path volumes. Which more or less implies that you'd need to buy those two (or, at least, the PDFs) to get the stats.
| Elizaveta Vladimira |
James Jacobs
Creative Director
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Liz Courts wrote:What jreyst is saying is that if you want them, you'll either have to get the Adventure Path issues that they are in, as they are not available separately from them.Odd. Some AP stuff is on the D20 PFSRD.\
That's not the official PRD, I should note—D20 PFSRD has always picked up some parts of our products for inclusion on their site. I'm not sure that they do EVERYTHING though.
If you can find what you're looking for there, that's great. That's not something we officially produce, though, so I'm not sure you'd be willing to go with that or not.
| Elizaveta Vladimira |
Elizaveta Vladimira wrote:jreyst wrote:I don't use prepared adventures. I just need the monster stats so I can recompile them in the PDF (which James Jacobs confirms is permissible).Elizaveta Vladimira wrote:My understanding is that the monsters in the Pathfinder Adventure Paths are open game content. I would like to know where I can find the stats for these creatures. Specifically, I would like off of the vampires. It's for something I've been talking to James Jacobs about: a PDF that both contains all the official Pathfinder vampires and a whole bunch of new ones straight from my brain, plus pre-gens. I've found a couple on the D20 PFSRD, but that's it. Is there somewhere I can find the rest?Yeah, in the Adventure Paths :)There's a lot more in the Adventure Paths than there are just adventures. I suspect that even if you're just buying a few to get the vampire stats, chances are good you'll find more in there as well. Pathfinder #8 has stats for the Nosferatu, but also has a neat article on how plagues and sickness work in a fantasy setting, as well as an article about Abadar. And several other new monsters. Pathfinder #29 has stats for the vrykolakas, but also has a handy article about fantasy RPG thieves' guilds and a big article about Asmodeus. And several other new monsters.
Needless to say, two adventures. Even if you don't use published adventures, I suspect you're always in need of maps—using maps from adventures saves you time and lets you focus on creating your own adventure. Or at the very least, published adventures are a VERY handy place to grab pre-build NPC stat blocks.
Anyway... yeah. The only place I know of that has these stats are in those two Adventure Path volumes. Which more or less implies that you'd need to buy those two (or, at least, the PDFs) to get the stats.
Thanks for clearing that up. I can get the PDFs off this site, right? Depending on cost, I'll either buy them from here or just write up my own stats. Thanks for telling me which issues have vampires.
| Elizaveta Vladimira |
Vinland Forever wrote:Liz Courts wrote:What jreyst is saying is that if you want them, you'll either have to get the Adventure Path issues that they are in, as they are not available separately from them.Odd. Some AP stuff is on the D20 PFSRD.\That's not the official PRD, I should note—D20 PFSRD has always picked up some parts of our products for inclusion on their site. I'm not sure that they do EVERYTHING though.
If you can find what you're looking for there, that's great. That's not something we officially produce, though, so I'm not sure you'd be willing to go with that or not.
They don't have the vampires. I'll either buy the PDFs of the issues you mentioned or write up my own stats.
What I do plan to do is make a psychic vampire template. This PDF I'm making really should have one. Psychic vampires are cool. I'm also making Leanan Sidhe, those creepy floating vampire heads, Wood Wives, Dearg-Dul, Strigoii (only some Strigoii are vampiric, though), a Chinese vampire who's name escapes me, a couple movie inspired vampires, feral vampires, Stokerian vampires, and a race of living vampires. This PDF isn't just repackaged stats. I've got plenty of my own stuff to offer.
| jreyst |
There's a lot more in the Adventure Paths than there are just adventures. I suspect that even if you're just buying a few to get the vampire stats, chances are good you'll find more in there as well. Pathfinder #8 has stats for the Nosferatu, but also has a neat article on how plagues and sickness work in a fantasy setting, as well as an article about Abadar. And several other new monsters. Pathfinder #29 has stats for the vrykolakas, but also has a handy article about fantasy RPG thieves' guilds and a big article about Asmodeus. And several other new monsters.
Needless to say, two adventures. Even if you don't use published adventures, I suspect you're always in need of maps—using maps from adventures saves you time and lets you focus on creating your own adventure. Or at the very least, published adventures are a VERY handy place to grab pre-build NPC stat blocks.
Anyway... yeah. The only place I know of that has these stats are in those two Adventure Path volumes. Which more or less implies that you'd need to buy those two (or, at least, the PDFs) to get the stats.
Yeah, the AP's are great because in addition to new monsters in virtually every issue they almost always include new haunts, new traps, new magic items, new diseases, new afflictions, new NPCs, new equipment... new weapons.. all sorts of neat stuff. While we (d20pfsrd.com) do try to include ALL of the parts of Paizo products that are available under the OGL or the CUP, the simple truth is we just can't keep up with it all. Right now we're buried in Tome of Horrors Complete and Louis Porter Jr. just sent us a batch of several hundred feats to add. Bestiary 3 is coming out soon so we're gonna be buried for quite some time. We've got a few guys who focus on the APs but generally most of that stuff goes through a review process by our beastmasters before going public so there's often a delay period there. Anyway, yeah, my point was that if you can't wait for d20pfsrd to post the stuff you're looking for the APs you are talking about are well worth the $.
Vic Wertz
Chief Technical Officer
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My understanding is that the monsters in the Pathfinder Adventure Paths are open game content.
I'd just like to point out that while this is *almost* always true, there have been a couple of exceptions—cases where we've gotten specific permission from another party to use a creature that isn't Open Game Content. Please check the actual statements of Open Game Content in each product to be sure.
chopswil
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Anyway, yeah, my point was that if you can't wait for d20pfsrd to post the stuff you're looking for the APs...
I do the Monster, NPC, Spell and Magic Item DBs on d20pfsrd, basically every month I update my DBs with this info from just about every Paizo product including the APs.
For those of you who need your fix a little quicker...