Can a monk with medium armor preficiency get his flurry of blows while wearing armor?
No. There are no monks that can wear armor without having to deal with the penalties.
Can a monk with medium armor preficiency get his flurry of blows while wearing armor?
No. Get some Monk's Robes, Bracers of Armor, Amulet of Natural Armor and Rings of Protection. A Belt of Dexterity wouldn't hurt either. A headband of Wisdom would work too, since Monk's get to add their Wisdom bonus to their AC.
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Can a monk with medium armor preficiency get his flurry of blows while wearing armor?
but wearing armor is actually viable if you want to specialize in grappling, seeing as though you cant flurry in a grapple. you can take a level or 2 of fighter and get light-medium armor proficiency with spikes enchanted to +5 and supped up with flaming ect... its cheaper then an amulet of mighty fists.
seeing as though you cant flurry in a grapple.
Yes you can.
The person that is grappled(victim) can full attack. The grappler(person who is doing the holding) has to choose to maintain the grapple which is a standard action or do a full round attack which results in the victim being automatically freed.
I would find it REALLY WEIRD if a Sohei loses Flurry in Armor >.<
I actually went and checked before I made my first post. Light armor is in. Medium armor is out.
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I actually went and checked before I made my first post. Light armor is in. Medium armor is out.
Well mithral might work.I don't see how you come to that conclusion.
If there is something about the sohei that lets ignore the "When wearing armor, using a shield, or carrying a medium or heavy load, the monk loses his AC bonus, as well as his fast movement and flurry of blows ability" line, why would it only be ignored in light armor? Why not other armors as well.
Its not in the FAQ that I see.
Weapon and Armor Proficiency
A sohei is proficient with all simple and martial weapons and with light armor.
It was basically designed to be an armored monk.
Looking at the RAW they did not add it, but giving monk access to armor and then saying
Weapon Training (Ex)
At 6th level, a sohei gains weapon training in one of the following weapon groups, as the fighter class feature: bows, crossbows, monk weapons, polearms, spears, or thrown weapons. He may select an additional group of weapons for every six levels after 6th, to a maximum of three at 18th level. A sohei may use flurry of blows and ki strike with any weapon in which he has weapon training.
This ability replaces purity of body, diamond body, quivering palm, timeless body, and tongue of the sun and moon.
, but you can't wear armor while doing it is pretty ridiculous.
The RAI is pretty clear, but the FAQ button does need to be pressed. I will just create a thread for it instead so they can fix it and make it official.
Actually a Weapon Master Fighter could do it as a Fighter 3/Sohei 6. Which is how one of my players made a gunslinging monk, 1 level gunslinger for grit and gunsmith, 3 levels weapon master, then sohei.
While I am a huge proponent of all things monk related I'm not sure RAI is that armored flurry is available.
It would open up alot of other issues like does he get to keep the Wisdom bonus to AC? Does he get the better form of Evasion like the Rogue? How about the increased speed?
The Sohei gets to keep this stuff because he can give it to his mount, not necessarily because he can do it with armor on.
I don't have the book in front of me but I don't recall anything in the archetype that removes the multiple restrictions on armor. Monks suffer not from lacking armor proficiency like a wizard. They suffer from being DENIED armor; this is important because they are denied the armor slot. No other class is denied the slot, even Wizards/Sorcerors can utilize the slot with or without the proficiency. The arcane casters have to contend with spell failure and armor check penalties but their class feature don't shut down, the Core Monk's class features do. Nothing in the archetype suggests this is different for the Sohei.
Just for giggles look up the armored kilt . It has no arcane spell failure chance and no armor check penalty. Theoretically a Wizard can put one on without proficiency and without any penalty. The Monk however cannot do the same because fully half of his low level class features will shut down because it's armor.
Ahh, yeah I knew I was missing something there.
I agree that it seems dumb to get armor and not flurry but, think of the ramifications.
A single level dip into Sohei doubles a martial class's full attack which is hardly broken but I'll dip everytime now. The extra attack is a no-brainer for a loss of 1 to BAB especially in something like PFS games where I'll never get to four itterative attacks per round. This is less true of divine classes but not by much since they get full martial weapon access as well. What happens if shield proficiency gets brought in?
I definitely agree about the AC bonus. Not because of the awesome Monk AC though, it's the potential for divine caster silliness that scares me here. Given what the Sohei gets front loaded at level 1 and 2, you'd might as well remove medium armor from the cleric. I'd say that Sohei 1 + Cleric X is > than Cleric X+1. I'd happily give up one caster level for Wisdom to AC, full martial weapon access, 2 feats, +2 to reflex and the supercool initiative boost.
When I first read this archetype I had to gut reactions;
#1 Dragonrider!
#2 This guy was made for multiclassing, he covers everyone's weaknesses the non-casters even more so, this is not a bad thing however.
Getting bracers of armor will get them to about the same AC as light armor even though the lower price allows them to get that AC faster, but maybe something else was also overlooked like the automatic bonus to AC that monks get as they level.