Monks with natural attacks question


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So long story short, we have a Monk (hungry ghost, so no Purity of Body) in our PF game who was bitten by a werebear. We just made 9th level, and in the process of helping him level, I came across the rules for combining manufactured weapons with natural weapons.

He hasn't been using any of his natural attacks in hybrid form (2 claws and a bite) because his unarmed damage is so much better, but if I am understanding the rules correctly, he can also make 2 claws and a bite attack at BAB-5, using 1/2 Str for damage, with no penalty to his normal unarmed attacks (though not as part of his Flurry of Blows). Is that correct?

If that is the case, I have a question about the Multiattack feat. Since his unarmed strikes are considered both manufactured weapons and natural weapons, would his unarmed attack plus his 3 natural attacks in hybrid form qualify him for the Multiattack feat?

Thanks for the help!


First question - correct.

Second question - Pretty sure unarmed strikes can't be used for that purpose (the same way that they don't qualify for Improved Natural Attack, under Pathfinder rules) HOWEVER, two claws + one bite = 3 attacks. He already meets the prerequisite for Multiattack regardless.


Thanks Kazejin! Completely misread the prereq for the Multiattack feat.

Okay so new question. In addition to allowing him to use Flurry of Blows and natural attacks in the same round, does the Feral Combat Training feat mean that his bite and 2 claw attacks will use his unarmed damage (2d6, he has a robe of the monk) instead of their normal damage dice?

Thanks again.


Ekkias wrote:

Thanks Kazejin! Completely misread the prereq for the Multiattack feat.

Okay so new question. In addition to allowing him to use Flurry of Blows and natural attacks in the same round, does the Feral Combat Training feat mean that his bite and 2 claw attacks will use his unarmed damage (2d6, he has a robe of the monk) instead of their normal damage dice?

Thanks again.

I looked at that as well when Ultimate Combat came out, but I really don't think its intended to work that way. I think the Monk's Robe is an oversight.

Also, remember that Feral Combat Training lets you substitute natural attacks for unarmed strikes in flurry (meaning it doesn't increase the total number of attacks he gets).

Edit: And also, Feral Combat training requires him to pick a specific natural weapon, much like Weapon Focus. So, Feral Combat Training (Claw) and Feral Combat Training (Bite) would have to be taken (and qualified for) separately.

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