Spectral Hand To Hit Modifier

[Michael Pace 573]

Stupid question here. What are the modifiers to hit with spectral hand?

The spell description says it give you a +2 on your melee touch attack. Does that mean you use
Base attack bonus + Strength modifier + size modifier, or do you Dexterity instead , as it's a ranged attack?

[Kydeem de'Morcaine]

Michael Pace 573 wrote:

Stupid question here. What are the modifiers to hit with spectral hand?

The spell description says it give you a +2 on your melee touch attack. Does that mean you use
Base attack bonus + Strength modifier + size modifier, or do you Dexterity instead , as it's a ranged attack?

I have always read it as allowing you to make a melee touch at range, so it would you your melee attack modifiers. Therefore, strength not dexterity.

However, I can see the reasoning to allow ranged/dex and might allow it if I was GM.

[Joe Jungers]

Michael Pace 573 wrote:

Stupid question here. What are the modifiers to hit with spectral hand?

The spell description says it give you a +2 on your melee touch attack. Does that mean you use Base attack bonus + Strength modifier + size modifier, or do you Dexterity instead , as it's a ranged attack?

Yeah, I'd say go with the Strength modifier, since it s MELEE touch, even though its being performed at range.

My sorcerer uses this quite a lot, though I had her take Weapon Finesse, so she could use her Dexterity mod instead.

[Michael Pace 573]

Joe Jungers wrote:

Michael Pace 573 wrote:

Stupid question here. What are the modifiers to hit with spectral hand?

The spell description says it give you a +2 on your melee touch attack. Does that mean you use Base attack bonus + Strength modifier + size modifier, or do you Dexterity instead , as it's a ranged attack?

Yeah, I'd say go with the Strength modifier, since it s MELEE touch, even though its being performed at range.

My sorcerer uses this quite a lot, though I had her take Weapon Finesse, so she could use her Dexterity mod instead.

Thank you both. This helped. Of course what they should have done is allow the caster to use his intelligence as with hand of the apprentice. I guess they figured the +2 was enough.

[Kydeem de'Morcaine]

I was thinking about making a sorc that specialized in touch attacks with spectral hand. Never got around to it though.