Do extra attacks affect natural attacks?


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Does the wild ragers wild fighting and/or the spell haste affect the amount of natural attacks you can do in a full round action? For example, if you have 3 natural attacks, and both wild fighting and haste grant an extra attack, would you then have 5 attacks? I don't think they affect natural attacks, but I just want to make sure before I make a decision.

Also can you attack with a bite and a gore in the same round? Assuming both are primary natural attacks.

Wild Fighting

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At 2nd level, even when not raging, wild ragers often fight with reckless, savage abandon. A wild rager using the full-attack action can make one extra attack per round at her highest base attack bonus. Until the beginning of her next turn, however, she takes a –2 penalty on attack rolls and –4 penalty to AC.


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Haste does not stack with similar effects that give extra attacks, so it might not stack with the wild fighting.

Find a ruling on whether rapid shot stacks with haste.


Tikael wrote:
Haste does not stack with other effects that give extra attacks, so it would not stack with the wild fighting.

Alright thanks, but either of them would give an extra natural attack right? That would be crazy if they did stack.


Some Random Dood wrote:

Does the wild ragers wild fighting and/or the spell haste affect the amount of natural attacks you can do in a full round action? For example, if you have 3 natural attacks, and both wild fighting and haste grant an extra attack, would you then have 5 attacks? I don't think they affect natural attacks, but I just want to make sure before I make a decision.

Also can you attack with a bite and a gore in the same round? Assuming both are primary natural attacks.

Wild Fighting
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Haste does work on natural attacks. The spell works on "creatures." It does not specify humanoids or exclude any kind of creature type. So a creature with natural attacks would get the one extra attack that round, using their primary attack form.

I'm on the fence about whether it would "stack" with the wild fighting rage ability. The spell says it does not stack with similar effects, then names a speed weapon as an example. The rage ability is an extraordinary ability, not a supernatural or magical one. As a class ability, I am inclined to say that it is not strictly an "effect," and therefore they do stack. Similarly, as a feat, Rapid Shot is not an "effect," per se, and so that would likewise stack with haste.

As to the bite and gore, if the creature or character has both as natural attacks, it would most likely be able to use them both with a full attack action. Since both haste and wild fighting need full round actions, yes, you should be able to use both weapons. But my feeling is that both extra attacks (from haste and from wild fighting) would come from the same attack form. That would be the first one listed for the creature, most likely the bite.


Thanks for answering my questions.

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