Archaeologist’s luck is treated as bardic performance for the purposes of feats, abilities, effects, and the like that affect bardic performance.
Does that also mean that it counts as bardic performance for the purposes of Feats and Prestige Classes that have Bardic Music as a prerequisite?
Archaeologist’s luck is treated as bardic performance for the purposes of feats, abilities, effects, and the like that affect bardic performance.Does that also mean that it counts as bardic performance for the purposes of Feats and Prestige Classes that have Bardic Music as a prerequisite?
I don't believe so. Since it specifically states that it only counts for those things when they affect bardic performance, it would be limited to just those instances. Something like Extra Performance (which adds 6 rounds of total use to bardic performance) could be taken to increase the number of rounds you can use Archaeologist's Luck.
Now it does open some interesting feats up besides that, but I don't think it counts as prereqs for PCs and such.
But if it doesn't count, then you don't qualify to take Extra Performance in the first place.
Similar question, different thread. (that was never answered)
Say I take a few ranks in Bard, with the Archaeologist archetype. At level 5, I'm now qualified to become a Pathfinder Chronicler. At Level 9, with four class levels of Chronicler under my belt, I'm finally able to conceive Epic Tales; basically, Bardic Performance on paper...
...Am I able to use Epic Tales to convey the benefits of "Archaeologist’s Luck"?
i would rule yes on both because the only thing it changes is the name and where the bonuses go but by the RAW probably not
But if it doesn't count, then you don't qualify to take Extra Performance in the first place.
It would count in this case, because it's a feat that affects bardic performance, which the clause specifically includes.
However, I don't think it qualifies as a prerequisite for a prestige class. That states that you need Bardic Performance and Archaeologist states
Bardic Performance:
Archaeologists do not gain the bardic performance ability or any of its performance types.
So the clause in Archaeologist's Luck allows you to qualify for the things that directly modify bardic performance, but it doesn't substitute when you need bardic performance in and of itself.
So if a feat, ability, effect changes the way bardic performance works, Archaeologist's Luck qualifies. But if you need bardic performance all by itself (like as a pre-req for a prestige class), then it won't do.
Edit: sorry, my first post should have been more specific in meaning that it didn't qualify as a pre-req for prestige classes.
So the clause in Archaeologist's Luck allows you to qualify for the things that directly modify bardic performance, but it doesn't substitute when you need bardic performance in and of itself.So if a feat, ability, effect changes the way bardic performance works, Archaeologist's Luck qualifies. But if you need bardic performance all by itself (like as a pre-req for a prestige class), then it won't do.
Edit: sorry, my first post should have been more specific in meaning that it didn't qualify as a pre-req for prestige classes.
...But, Just for Clarification... by your definition, it Would work for Epic Tales?
Pathfinder Chronicler prestige class is a strange one; Never anywhere does it state that you need Bardic Performance (As if a prerequisite), probably because the class itself grants that ability at earlier levels. I can understand, and even sympathize with the prospect that Despite this, a GM wouldn't allow any character with the Archaeologist class archetype to gain Bardic Performance from other means, since it's specifically disabled by the archetype. But that's complicating things.
Epic tales is an ability. Nowhere does it state Bardic Performance as a Prerequisite. It "Affects" Archaeologist’s luck by using its Rounds per day. However, the wording is so geared towards Bardic Performance and Bardic Music specifically ( Ex: 'An epic tale affects only the reader, but it grants all the benefits that would normally apply for hearing a performance.' ) that it makes it a bit confusing. So a final verdict is needed.
...But, Just for Clarification... by your definition, it Would work for Epic Tales?
The way I'm reading it, yes, it would count for Epic Tales as much as the Bardic Performance normally would. So technically you could bestow the benefits of your Archaeologist's Luck to someone else via the written word using Epic Tales, just as much as you could Inspire Courage through it.
This would be one of those interesting cases, you are definitely right there.
And since the Bardic Performance clause in Archaeologist is a do not gain Bardic Performance and not a cannot gain it, Chronicler should be able to give you Bardic Performance as well. So you'd have a bunch of rounds that you could spend on Bardic Performance or on Archaeologist's Luck as you see fit would be my interpretation.