Coraith
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Name: Folnor Lumjon Ninnab Ollfnab Hodgewyn the 4th
Alighnment: Neutral
Diety: Nethys
Race: Gnome Gender: Male Age:48
Height: 3'1" Weight: 39lbs Hair: Burnt Orange Eyes: Blue
Faction: Osirion
Current Level: 2 Class: Cloistered Cleric Domain: Magic
Ability
STR 12 DEX 7 CON 14 INT 12 WIS 16 CHA 16
Initiative: -2 AC: 13 Fort: 5 Reflex: -2 Will: 6
CMB: 1 CMD: 9
Traits: Tombraider(faction) & Zealot(gnome)
Feats: Selective Channeling
Skills(w/ points put into them)
Diplomacy 7
Knowledge Arcana 7
Knowledge Dungeoneering 2
Knowledge Engineering 2
Knowledge Geography 2
Knowledge History 2
Knowledge Local 6
Knowledge Nature 2
Knowledge Nobility 2
Knowledge Planes 2
Knowledge Religion 8
Linguistics 5
Perception 10
Profession Scribe 9
Sense Motive 7
Spellcraft 5
Speaks Common, Gnome, Sylven, Celestial
I am trying to find some worthwhile feats to plan out the character. I do not want the character to rush headlong into combat, but I do want the character to be able to give/take hits when needed, I am unsure how to proceed. Suggestions are appreciated.
Coraith
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Are you dead set on being a cloistered cleric?
Yeah, I enjoy that if I am feeling aggressive I can attack and do things, and if I am feeling lazy I can hang back and nobody gives me too much grief as I am the HP maker. I am usually aggressive but I know eventually I'll have a day where I don't want to put a lot of effort in.
AND I am the only one who opted to play a cleric, so far all my knowledge checks have made a huge difference in how we have done things.
| leo1925 |
Since this character seems to be for PFS it throws the scribe scroll out of the window, then i have to say toughness and... i don't know what else, i was going to suggest heavy armor prof. but this doesn't work for cloistered neither does weapon focus..., go for spell focus enchantment and greater spell focus.
But be aware cloistered clerics kinda suck.
Coraith
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Since this character seems to be for PFS it throws the scribe scroll out of the window, then i have to say toughness and... i don't know what else, i was going to suggest heavy armor prof. but this doesn't work for cloistered neither does weapon focus..., go for spell focus enchantment and greater spell focus.
Why would weapon focus/heavy armor not work for CC(cloistered Clerics)? Just a waste of a feat? I know CC are unable to wear medium armor to start so would Medium armor proficiency be worth sinking a point into?
I knew building a CC would be difficult when I chose it but I appreciate a challenge like this.
| leo1925 |
leo1925 wrote:Since this character seems to be for PFS it throws the scribe scroll out of the window, then i have to say toughness and... i don't know what else, i was going to suggest heavy armor prof. but this doesn't work for cloistered neither does weapon focus..., go for spell focus enchantment and greater spell focus.Why would weapon focus/heavy armor not work for CC(cloistered Clerics)? Just a waste of a feat? I know CC are unable to wear medium armor to start so would Medium armor proficiency be worth sinking a point into?
I knew building a CC would be difficult when I chose it but I appreciate a challenge like this.
For weapon focus: because you don't have any good weapon prof. you don't even have morningstar.
For heavy armor: because you also need medium armor prof.Bottom line, too many feats.
So i suggest go with spell focus enchantment, or go with spell focus conjuration and then augment summoning (as a neutral cleric of a neutral deity you don't have the usual cleric problems with summon monster). Toughness is always a valid choice.
Coraith
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For weapon focus: because you don't have any good weapon prof. you don't even have morningstar.
For heavy armor: because you also need medium armor prof.
Bottom line, too many feats.
I am pretty sure a Morningstar is a simple one handed melee weapon. Pathfinder Society Core Rulebook Table 6-4 Weapons, Page 142 lists it as such. Would Feat: Weapon Focus(Morningstar) be your choice over Spell Focus?
| leo1925 |
leo1925 wrote:I am pretty sure a Morningstar is a simple one handed melee weapon. Pathfinder Society Core Rulebook Table 6-4 Weapons, Page 142 lists it as such. Would Feat: Weapon Focus(Morningstar) be your choice over Spell Focus?For weapon focus: because you don't have any good weapon prof. you don't even have morningstar.
For heavy armor: because you also need medium armor prof.
Bottom line, too many feats.
Cloistered cleric aren't proficient with morningstars.
It would be a valid choice for a cleric with no good deity's weapon.
Coraith
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Cloistered cleric aren't proficient with morningstars.
It would be a valid choice for a cleric with no good deity's weapon.
Ah. I forgot to check that.
I have been looking at alternatives. If I continue down the CC route until I hit 2nd Level divine spells then switch over to a sorcerer(based on my cha score being high) and picked up some levels there until I got to 2nd level Arcane spells. I could move into a Mystic Thuerge Prestige Class and would be versitile, knowledgeable, and moderately powerful. Any suggestions?*Edit*
After looking at level progressions, I could take my first level of Thurge at 8th character level. Putting me at 3-4th level sorc spells and 1 5th level cleric spells.
So nevermind that wouldn't be worth it.
Coraith
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Yes it wouldn't be worth it.
Question:
Why do you want such high charisma?
When I was originally writing him out I didn't know that Clerics no longer had turn undead. It had been 5+ years since I had played and I don't want to push my GM to let me overhaul him.
It doesn't hurt that it also lets me channel energy 6 times in one day.
Jiggy
RPG Superstar 2015 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32
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leo1925 wrote:When I was originally writing him out I didn't know that Clerics no longer had turn undead. It had been 5+ years since I had played and I don't want to push my GM to let me overhaul him.Yes it wouldn't be worth it.
Question:
Why do you want such high charisma?
Also, doing so would be illegal. Do remember, however, that you can use your Channel Energy (assuming you channel positive energy) to harm undead.
Also, if you don't mind losing some "progress", you could always just make a new character and start from scratch.
Coraith
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Also, if you don't mind losing some "progress", you could always just make a new character and start from scratch.
That would be the overhauling. I am already 2 levels behind other people because of scheduling conflicts. I don't think anyone would appreciate losing 3 levels just so I could re-roll.
That is why I am looking for advice to make this character stronger.
| leo1925 |
leo1925 wrote:Valor is not in my Gods domains. I was under the impression those have to be picked at first level.Can you pick variant channeling?
I hear that valor is good.
Variant channeling doesn't care about what deity you serve or even if you do so in the first place. I don't know if it must be done at first level and/or if characters are allowed to change that later, my knowledge on how PFS works is very limited.
Jiggy
RPG Superstar 2015 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32
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Jiggy wrote:Also, if you don't mind losing some "progress", you could always just make a new character and start from scratch.That would be the overhauling. I am already 2 levels behind other people because of scheduling conflicts. I don't think anyone would appreciate losing 3 levels just so I could re-roll.
That is why I am looking for advice to make this character stronger.
And there's only a single table's worth of PFS players nearby? You could look into finding another group with which to start building up a new character and catch him up (playing him in both your regular group and elsewhere).
Coraith
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And there's only a single table's worth of PFS players nearby? You could look into finding another group with which to start building up a new character and catch him up (playing him in both your regular group and elsewhere).
We usually have 2 tables going at the same time in different rooms. One with 5-6lvl players and mine which is three 4th level players and me. Its the only PFS meeting in the area unless I want to drive two hours, which I don't.
| waltero |
I see a couple of options for you.
1. You could embrace the channeling aspect and take more channeling feats. You do qualify for Versatile Channeler (from Ultimate Magic) since you are a neutral cleric of a neutral deity.
If you take either Alignment or Elemental Channel by 7th level and have 5 points in Knowledge(Religion), you would qualify for Holy Vindicator prestige class to finish out your career (8-12) as a Holy Vindicator. Your channeling continues to improve with that class, but you lose 1 caster level. You would gain all Simple and Martial Weapons and all Armor and Shields (except Tower) - equivalent to a couple of feats.
2. In PFS, you will gain Spell Focus in place of Scribe Scroll. So you could pick a school you like and take appropriate feats. Conjuration school would open up Augment Summoning.
| leo1925 |
Going holy vindicator would halt his domain power, does anyone remember if magic gives you anything good?
Elemental channel is pretty much a burned feat and alignment channel is only good for clerics who channel positive energy but want to harm outsiders with that, i don't think that it's worth it on it's own but it is a prerequisite for going holy vindicator.
Coraith
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does anyone remember if magic gives you anything good?
It gives:
Hand of the Acolyte (Su): You can cause your melee weaponto f ly from your grasp and strike a foe before instantly
returning. As a standard action, you can make a single
attack using a melee weapon at a range of 30 feet. This
attack is treated as a ranged attack with a thrown weapon,
except that you add your Wisdom modifier to the attack
roll instead of your Dexterity modifier (damage still relies
on Strength). This ability cannot be used to perform a
combat maneuver. You can use this ability a number of
times per day equal to 3 + your Wisdom modifier.
Dispelling Touch (Sp): At 8th level, you can use a targeted
dispel magic effect as a melee touch attack. You can use this
ability once per day at 8th level and one additional time per
day for every four cleric levels beyond 8th.
Domain Spells: 1st—identify, 2nd—magic mouth, 3rd—
dispel magic, 4th—imbue with spell ability, 5th—spell resistance,
6th—antimagic field, 7th—spell turning, 8th—protection from
spells, 9th—mage’s disjunction.