Couple of situations.
Let's say, level 5 Hu/Ninja.
1-Sap adept, Weapon Finesse
2-Ninja trick: Imp Unarmed Strike
3-Knockout Artist
4-Ninja trick: Vanish
5-Sap Master
All situations involve being able to get sneak attack off.
Situation Number 1:
Attacking with Unarmed Strike.
Apply: Weapon Finesse, Sap Adept, Sap Master, Knockout Artist
Damage: 1d3 + sneak attack and all above
Situation Number 2:
Attacking with Brass Knuckles.
Apply: Weapon Finesse. (lethal damage, so nothing else applies)
Damage: (same as unarmed strike? just lethal?) + only sneak attack
Situation Number 3:
Attacking with Cestus.
Apply: Weapon Finesse. (the wording on cestus is confusing. you're considered armed for your attacks while wearing, yet if you're proficient, your unarmed attacks can do piercing/bludgeoning...so are you armed or unarmed...or is it a choice? and if you're unarmed...what's your damage?)
Situation Number 4:
Attacking with Brass Knuckles with Merciful encantment.
Apply: Weapon Finesse, Sap Adept, Sap Master. (not knockout artist because not unarmed....right?)
Damage: ?? + sneak + enchantment + Sap Adept +Sap Master
Situation Number 5:
Attacking with Cestus with Merciful enchantment.
Apply: Weapon Finesse, Sap Adept, Sap Master (again....can I be unarmed while using this? And if so, what's the damage?)
As you can see, I'm quite confused. Mainly as to what I can use Improved Unarmed Strike with...if anything...besides Unarmed Strike.
And also..if it's possible to add Knockout Artist to damage if wearing either of those 2 weapons.
....Confused O_O.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Couple of situations.
Thanks in advance for the help.
Done some more research and it seems the general consensus is that attacks with knuckles and cestus do not count as an unarmed strike.
So if that's settled, one last question is: Can you enchant a gauntlet to be + to attack?