Do Holy Vin, Faith Healing and Domain Healing "Free Empowered healing" stack in any way?


Rules Questions


I am looking over the Holy Vindicator, and the Domain healing abilities.

Domain Healing
At 6th level, all of your cure spells are treated as if they were empowered, This does not stack with the Empower Spell metamagic feat.

Holy Vindicator, Faith Healing (SU)
At 3rd level, any cure wounds spells a vindicator casts on himself are automatically empowered as if by the Empower Spell feat, except they do not use higher spell level slots or an increased casting time. Self only, but at level 8 these healing spells are maximized rather than empowered.

Now, say, a level 7 cleric/level 3 Holy Vin, would get the shaft here "or would they?", but a level 7 cleric/ level 8 Holy Vin would get Empowered Maximized healing? "On himself though. So I don't really see it being that big of a problem." Especially considering your level 15. Your 48 + (1.5 * caster level) isn't so much an issue when your dealing with creature that are doing about 70 damage on average. Even so, your level 4 cure critical wounds is now worth a level 9th level spell slot. "A very situation very limited spell slot. So not at all that powerful."

Does this stack?


Lockgo wrote:

I am looking over the Holy Vindicator, and the Domain healing abilities.

Domain Healing
At 6th level, all of your cure spells are treated as if they were empowered, This does not stack with the Empower Spell metamagic feat.

Holy Vindicator, Faith Healing (SU)
At 3rd level, any cure wounds spells a vindicator casts on himself are automatically empowered as if by the Empower Spell feat, except they do not use higher spell level slots or an increased casting time. Self only, but at level 8 these healing spells are maximized rather than empowered.

Now, say, a level 7 cleric/level 3 Holy Vin, would get the shaft here "or would they?", but a level 7 cleric/ level 8 Holy Vin would get Empowered Maximized healing? "On himself though. So I don't really see it being that big of a problem." Especially considering your level 15. Your 48 + (1.5 * caster level) isn't so much an issue when your dealing with creature that are doing about 70 damage on average. Even so, your level 4 cure critical wounds is now worth a level 9th level spell slot. "A very situation very limited spell slot. So not at all that powerful."

Does this stack?

Unless there's something in the wording of the text that disallows it, the spell should be empowered and maximized.

You could do it with the metamagic feats. Maximize spell says:
"An empowered, maximized spell gains the separate benefits of each feat: the maximum result plus half the normally rolled result."

Liberty's Edge

a) Domain Healing: At 6th level, all of your cure spells are treated as if they were empowered, This does not stack with the Empower Spell metamagic feat.

B) Holy Vindicator, Faith Healing (SU)
1)Self only, At 3rd level, any cure wounds spells a vindicator casts on himself are automatically empowered as if by the Empower Spell feat, except they do not use higher spell level slots or an increased casting time.
2) but at level 8 these healing spells are maximized rather than empowered.

- Now, say, a level 7 cleric/level 3 Holy Vin, would get the shaft here "or would they?",

He satisfy condition a) and b1) but not b2)
His cure spell are empowered only.

- but a level 7 cleric/ level 8 Holy Vin would get Empowered Maximized healing?

He satisfy condition a), b1) and b2), so yes 8for the spells he use on himself).

Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder First Edition / Rules Questions / Do Holy Vin, Faith Healing and Domain Healing "Free Empowered healing" stack in any way? All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.