Can you use a spiked gaunt if you took an AoO with a reach 2 handed weapon?


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situation:
weilding a reach weapon, an npc moved through my threatened (10 feet away and provoked an AoO) space on its way to hit me. then runs into an adjacent square to me. i have a spell that allows me to make an AoO(a second AoO)if they stand next to me.

so my question is would i be able to drop my reach weapon and smack them with my spiked gauntlet, if it isn't my turn?

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TheSideKick wrote:

situation:

weilding a reach weapon, an npc moved through my threatened (10 feet away and provoked an AoO) space on its way to hit me. then runs into an adjacent square to me. i have a spell that allows me to make an AoO(a second AoO)if they stand next to me.

so my question is would i be able to drop my reach weapon and smack them with my spiked gauntlet, if it isn't my turn?

Not at my table; an AoO implies you're ready to take the attack. If you have to drop a weapon in order to make the attack, you're not ready for it and thus can't take an AoO. Just like you can't 5-foot step before it, use iterative attacks, cast a quickened spell, etc.

Shadow Lodge

gbonehead wrote:


Not at my table; an AoO implies you're ready to take the attack. If you have to drop a weapon in order to make the attack, you're not ready for it and thus can't take an AoO. Just like you can't 5-foot step before it, use iterative attacks, cast a quickened spell, etc.

if you are going aginst the rules then i would argue that a spiked gauntlet is " always" ready due to the fact that you mearly need to let go of something to hit the person.

i guess im asking for a official ruling.

ops thought i put this in rules...

The Exchange

You should be able to punch while holding a weapon. Their entries are silent about this, brass knuckles say you can hold but not wield an object or weapon, I mention this for comparison.

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GeneticDrift wrote:
You should be able to punch while holding a weapon. Their entries are silent about this, brass knuckles say you can hold but not wield an object or weapon, I mention this for comparison.

so no official ruling, ok cool i will ask my dm. thank you all for the help i appreciate it.


If you wear spiked gauntlets, you count as armed (with a melee weapon).

If you are armed, you threaten (your reach tells you which squares, and as long as your weapon doesn't say otherwise).

If you are armed with different weapons at the same time (due to TWF, multiple limbs, natural weapons, or reach weapon + IUS/spiked gauntlet/armor spikes/shield) each of them threatens (according to its own reach).

If you threaten, you can make AoOs.

(Since your AoO is only one attack, you have to choose a legitimate weapon that threatens the space the AoO is provoked from).

That's how I understand those rules.

You can also think of it this way: no one would deny you to make an AoO against an adjacent enemy with armor spikes or a bite attack, right?
So, what needs more active movement on your part? To let go of your polearm with one hand and smack the enemy, or to make something akin to a body tackle / bite your enemy?

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GeneticDrift wrote:
You should be able to punch while holding a weapon. Their entries are silent about this, brass knuckles say you can hold but not wield an object or weapon, I mention this for comparison.

Right, and if you ever had brass knuckles on your hand, you'd know why they're ruled differently from (spiked) gauntlets. ;)


TheSideKick wrote:

situation:

weilding a reach weapon, an npc moved through my threatened (10 feet away and provoked an AoO) space on its way to hit me. then runs into an adjacent square to me. i have a spell that allows me to make an AoO(a second AoO)if they stand next to me.

so my question is would i be able to drop my reach weapon and smack them with my spiked gauntlet, if it isn't my turn?

Put spykes on your knees and you don't have to drop you polearm.

You don't need spyked gauntlets. Just use "armor spyke".

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AlecStorm wrote:
TheSideKick wrote:

situation:

weilding a reach weapon, an npc moved through my threatened (10 feet away and provoked an AoO) space on its way to hit me. then runs into an adjacent square to me. i have a spell that allows me to make an AoO(a second AoO)if they stand next to me.

so my question is would i be able to drop my reach weapon and smack them with my spiked gauntlet, if it isn't my turn?

Put spykes on your knees and you don't have to drop you polearm.

You don't need spyked gauntlets. Just use "armor spyke".

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We always allowed it in our games, it was never an issue. In fact, we all just kind of assumed that was the intent. Really, even if you're holding a polearm, how much effort does it take to simply swat at a passing foe with your spiked hand?

We just figured it was a reward for planning ahead and getting the spiked gauntlet in the first place, instead of some other kind of magic item gauntlet that would take the same slot.


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Grand Lodge

TheSideKick wrote:

situation:

weilding a reach weapon, an npc moved through my threatened (10 feet away and provoked an AoO) space on its way to hit me. then runs into an adjacent square to me. i have a spell that allows me to make an AoO(a second AoO)if they stand next to me.

so my question is would i be able to drop my reach weapon and smack them with my spiked gauntlet, if it isn't my turn?

An action can only provoke once. If this all took place during the one move action, you already got the free swing you were entitled to. This has nothing to do with the gauntlet itself it would apply no matter what weapons are being discussed.

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