Wearing two sets of armour and enhancements.


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Question. For example, if you were to say wear +5 Silken Ceremonial Robes over a Mastercraft Suit of Heavy Armour(Full Plate/O-Yoroi), do you get the enhancement bonus of the Robes and the armour bonus of the Heavy Armour?

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Felagun wrote:
Question. For example, if you were to say wear +5 Silken Ceremonial Robes over a Mastercraft Suit of Heavy Armour(Full Plate/O-Yoroi), do you get the enhancement bonus of the Robes and the armour bonus of the Heavy Armour?
Ultimate Combat wrote:
Silken Ceremonial Armor: Used for ceremonial displays or occasionally worn (albeit with no additional benefit) over heavier armor

Silken ceremonial robes have a +1 armour bonus, which is how they can be enhanced as magical armour (normal clothes have no armour bonus and you can't apply an enhancement bonus to a non-ability). Silken ceremonial robes +5 have a +6 armour bonus. This doesn't stack with the +8 armour bonus of o-yoroi.


Would +1 Heavy Fortification, Ghost Touch Silk Robes stack with a suit of +5 Spell Resistance(19) Full-Plate?

Grand Lodge

Armor stacking rules are quite clear. Whatever gives the higher AC bonus totally deactivates any other armor worn, including enhancements. The Heavy armor essentially eliminates the effective presence of the ceremonial robes and it's magic.

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Quantum Steve wrote:
Would +1 Heavy Fortification, Ghost Touch Silk Robes stack with a suit of +5 Spell Resistance(19) Full-Plate?

Arguably, the item description establishes that silk robes give no additional benefit if worn over heavier armour. This prevents them being an exception to the general rule that, of two magic items worn in the same slot, only one functions.


Coolio. Thank you all very much.

Grand Lodge

The Armor stacking rules were set up so that you can't stack a bracer +1 of medium fortification over regular or magical field plate. In either case, the bracers get deactivated.

Similar principles apply to this case as well.


Quilted Cloth: This enhanced form of padded armor
has internal layers specifically designed to trap arrows,
bolts, darts, shuriken, thrown daggers, and other small
ranged piercing weapons. When these kinds of weapons
strike you, they tend to become snagged in these layers
and fail to harm you. You gain DR 3/— against attacks of
this kind. The special layers of the armor have no effect on
other kinds of weapons.

Armored Coat: This sturdy leather coat is reinforced with
metal plates sewn into the lining. More cumbersome than
light armor but less effective than most medium armors,
the advantage of an armored coat is that a person can don
it or remove it as a move action (there is no “don hastily”
option for an armored coat). If worn over other armor, use
the better AC bonus and worse value in all other categories;
an armored coat has no effect if worn with heavy armor. The
only magic effects that apply are those worn on top.

Here's my question: if you ware an Armored Coat over Quilted Armor would you still get the DR?

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bobs04 wrote:

Quilted Cloth: This enhanced form of padded armor

has internal layers specifically designed to trap arrows,
bolts, darts, shuriken, thrown daggers, and other small
ranged piercing weapons. When these kinds of weapons
strike you, they tend to become snagged in these layers
and fail to harm you. You gain DR 3/— against attacks of
this kind. The special layers of the armor have no effect on
other kinds of weapons.

Armored Coat: This sturdy leather coat is reinforced with
metal plates sewn into the lining. More cumbersome than
light armor but less effective than most medium armors,
the advantage of an armored coat is that a person can don
it or remove it as a move action (there is no “don hastily”
option for an armored coat). If worn over other armor, use
the better AC bonus and worse value in all other categories;
an armored coat has no effect if worn with heavy armor. The
only magic effects that apply are those worn on top.

Here's my question: if you ware an Armored Coat over Quilted Armor would you still get the DR?

edit: You use the better AC bonus and worse value in all other categories, but the armored coat has no value for DR against small ranged piercing weapons (by which I think they actually mean projectile piercing weapons and light thrown piercing weapons) and it's not a magic effect. On reflection, you should get it.


Now can you wear Silken Ceremonial Robes over another Light Armor and get he +1 bonus to AC and take the worse DEX mod? It says to heavier armor get no AC bonus but Light Armor is not a heavier armor so that is what I'm wondering if it stacks with other Light Armors but not anything above that category.

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