Natural weapons and reach


Rules Questions


im using a monk

and my buddy wizard casts enlarge person giving me a increase size category (+8 str +4 con -1 to ac due to size +1 cmb/cmd due to size)

but with this I gain 10ft reach. I know that reach on weapons works so that you only provoke AoO from a 10ft. radius but doesn't it work differently for natural attacks.

would this mean that i can provoke at 10 feet, but still be able to attack at normal 5 ft.

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Skeithdestroyer wrote:

im using a monk

and my buddy wizard casts enlarge person giving me a increase size category (+8 str +4 con -1 to ac due to size +1 cmb/cmd due to size)

but with this I gain 10ft reach. I know that reach on weapons works so that you only provoke AoO from a 10ft. radius but doesn't it work differently for natural attacks.

would this mean that i can provoke at 10 feet, but still be able to attack at normal 5 ft.

The "can't attack adjacent" rule is only for weapons with the "reach" quality. All non-reach weapons threaten to a range equal to your natural reach (and include everything closer than that distance). All reach weapons threaten from a range equal to (natural reach + 5ft) to (natural reach * 2).

For you, non-reach weapons (when large sized) threaten at 5ft and 10ft, and reach weapons threaten at 15ft and 20ft. Any place you threaten, you can AoO someone.


The "can't attack adjacent" rule is only for weapons with the "reach" quality. All non-reach weapons threaten to a range equal to your natural reach (and include everything closer than that distance). All reach weapons threaten from a range equal to (natural reach + 5ft) to (natural reach * 2).

For you, non-reach weapons (when large sized) threaten at 5ft and 10ft, and reach weapons threaten at 15ft and 20ft. Any place you threaten, you can AoO someone.

thanks


Skeithdestroyer wrote:

im using a monk

and my buddy wizard casts enlarge person giving me a increase size category (+8 str +4 con -1 to ac due to size +1 cmb/cmd due to size)

but with this I gain 10ft reach. I know that reach on weapons works so that you only provoke AoO from a 10ft. radius but doesn't it work differently for natural attacks.

would this mean that i can provoke at 10 feet, but still be able to attack at normal 5 ft.

Quoting from the text: This spell causes instant growth of a humanoid creature, doubling its height and multiplying its weight by 8. This increase changes the creature's size category to the next larger one. The target gains a +2 size bonus to Strength, a –2 size penalty to Dexterity (to a minimum of 1), and a –1 penalty on attack rolls and AC due to its increased size.

Looks like your size mod may be a bit off as well.


Chakfor wrote:
Skeithdestroyer wrote:

im using a monk

and my buddy wizard casts enlarge person giving me a increase size category (+8 str +4 con -1 to ac due to size +1 cmb/cmd due to size)

but with this I gain 10ft reach. I know that reach on weapons works so that you only provoke AoO from a 10ft. radius but doesn't it work differently for natural attacks.

would this mean that i can provoke at 10 feet, but still be able to attack at normal 5 ft.

Quoting from the text: This spell causes instant growth of a humanoid creature, doubling its height and multiplying its weight by 8. This increase changes the creature's size category to the next larger one. The target gains a +2 size bonus to Strength, a –2 size penalty to Dexterity (to a minimum of 1), and a –1 penalty on attack rolls and AC due to its increased size.

Looks like your size mod may be a bit off as well.

+1. A lot of the change shape / size spells have specific rules built into the spell that tell you exactly what you get.

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