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While a lot of the "full suits" especially the PF ones suffer from Rob Liefield syndrome (unrealistic in the sheer numbers of things: pouches weapons, etc. hanging around getting in the way of maneuverability, the males suffer from this too) I do prefer them to the Red Sonja Bikinis form the Marvel omics I grew up on.
Then again I actually like Anne Hathaway's Catwoman costume from the new Nolan Batman.

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So this means my DM was wrong and chainmail comes in forms other than bikini? ;)
Love the link! And I do agree that sometimes the cheesecake stuff if fun, but it's also impossible to get a really good swing with a greataxe when you're worried about a wardrobe malfunction.
Hmm..cheesecake armor. Wonder if I could get strawberry fringing on that....

Umbral Reaver |

Dragonsong |
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To me those look like cheesecake armor shots done by someone who prefers small breasted women. I'm not a skirtolgist, but pants seem the best way to do physical things in. You know like fight for your life.
The Tonga, the Scots, the Bedouins, the Muy Thai guys, the Arnis guys, The Hawaiian Lua bonebreakers, the Zulu's, and Utilikilt wearer's would like a word with you. When Chuck Norris had to shill for special spandex laden pants to allow him to kick effectively, I am unconvinced of your argument.
plus also: this is one of the actresses featured (cheesecake alert!)not sure what your definition of small breasted is but I guess perceptions do vary.

dunelord3001 |

The Tonga, the Scots, the Bedouins, the Muy Thai guys, the Arnis guys, The Hawaiian Lua bonebreakers, the Zulu's, and Utilikilt wearer's would like a word with you. When Chuck Norris had to shill for special spandex laden pants to allow him to kick effectively, I am unconvinced of your argument.
plus also: this is one of the actresses featured (cheesecake alert!)not sure what your definition of small breasted is but I guess perceptions do vary.
I'm not going to get into a debate about pants.
She looks large breasted in most pics/movies but the photo in question makes her look small breasted, as does pretty much every other pic. If they had the appearance of not being able to tell because of armor that would be one thing but several of them seem to go out of the way to indicate that the women are small breasted, regardless of the breast size of the actress in question.

Dragonsong |

Dragonsong wrote:The Tonga, the Scots, the Bedouins, the Muy Thai guys, the Arnis guys, The Hawaiian Lua bonebreakers, the Zulu's, and Utilikilt wearer's would like a word with you. When Chuck Norris had to shill for special spandex laden pants to allow him to kick effectively, I am unconvinced of your argument.
plus also: this is one of the actresses featured (cheesecake alert!)not sure what your definition of small breasted is but I guess perceptions do vary.
I'm not going to get into a debate about pants.
She looks large breasted in most pics/movies but the photo in question makes her look small breasted, as does pretty much every other pic. If they had the appearance of not being able to tell because of armor that would be one thing but several of them seem to go out of the way to indicate that the women are small breasted, regardless of the breast size of the actress in question.
A) Then why bring it up to begin with?
B) All the photos serve to show is that a rigid material like metal means you cannot make accurate assessments of the figure of the person wearing it. So your initial assertion may not be accurate.

dunelord3001 |

A)I'm not getting into a debate about pants.
B) I'm not claiming that rigid materials like metal allows a accurate assessment of women's bust, therefore that is irrelevant. I'm claiming that although these pics aren't the worst of the cheesecake lot, they seem like they are there to present a still fairly sexual image of women in combat. Women being portrayed as having small breasts.

Freehold DM |

dunelord3001 wrote:To me those look like cheesecake armor shots done by someone who prefers small breasted women. I'm not a skirtolgist, but pants seem the best way to do physical things in. You know like fight for your life.The Tonga, the Scots, the Bedouins, the Muy Thai guys, the Arnis guys, The Hawaiian Lua bonebreakers, the Zulu's, and Utilikilt wearer's would like a word with you. When Chuck Norris had to shill for special spandex laden pants to allow him to kick effectively, I am unconvinced of your argument.
plus also: this is one of the actresses featured (cheesecake alert!)not sure what your definition of small breasted is but I guess perceptions do vary.
I'm a large breast enthusiast, and I don't find her small breasted at all.

Freehold DM |

Here is my belief
if female warrior types (Fighters, Rangers, Paladins, Clerics and yes even barbarians) in chain mail bikini's, then the male's need to be portraid in Chainmail speedo's even if they are a paladin. OH and they all have to be built as if they ripped ala Conan
I've found that beefcake is just as easy to find as cheesecake.

ProfessorCirno |

IceniQueen wrote:I've found that beefcake is just as easy to find as cheesecake.Here is my belief
if female warrior types (Fighters, Rangers, Paladins, Clerics and yes even barbarians) in chain mail bikini's, then the male's need to be portraid in Chainmail speedo's even if they are a paladin. OH and they all have to be built as if they ripped ala Conan
It's really easy to find big muscular power dudes in fantasy art.
Counterpoint: these pictures are also made for men, not women.
This isn't what most women enjoy. That's what men enjoy. This is what women enjoy. And I'm not seeing much Brad Pit in fantasy art.

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Freehold DM wrote:IceniQueen wrote:I've found that beefcake is just as easy to find as cheesecake.Here is my belief
if female warrior types (Fighters, Rangers, Paladins, Clerics and yes even barbarians) in chain mail bikini's, then the male's need to be portraid in Chainmail speedo's even if they are a paladin. OH and they all have to be built as if they ripped ala Conan
It's really easy to find big muscular power dudes in fantasy art.
Counterpoint: these pictures are also made for men, not women.
This isn't what most women enjoy. That's what men enjoy. This is what women enjoy. And I'm not seeing much Brad Pit in fantasy art.
No, I do not enjoy Brad pitt, i enjoy This or This Guy
I've never liked Brad Pitt. I like older more mature men

Freehold DM |

ProfessorCirno wrote:Freehold DM wrote:IceniQueen wrote:I've found that beefcake is just as easy to find as cheesecake.Here is my belief
if female warrior types (Fighters, Rangers, Paladins, Clerics and yes even barbarians) in chain mail bikini's, then the male's need to be portraid in Chainmail speedo's even if they are a paladin. OH and they all have to be built as if they ripped ala Conan
It's really easy to find big muscular power dudes in fantasy art.
Counterpoint: these pictures are also made for men, not women.
This isn't what most women enjoy. That's what men enjoy. This is what women enjoy. And I'm not seeing much Brad Pit in fantasy art.
No, I do not enjoy Brad pitt, i enjoy This or This Guy
I've never liked Brad Pitt. I like older more mature men
shakes fist Damn you, Hugh Jackman!!! Will I never be free of you?!?!?!!!

Curious |
Here is my belief
if female warrior types (Fighters, Rangers, Paladins, Clerics and yes even barbarians) in chain mail bikini's, then the male's need to be portraid in Chainmail speedo's even if they are a paladin. OH and they all have to be built as if they ripped ala Conan
Like the 300 Spartans

Lord Fyre RPG Superstar 2009 Top 32 |

World of Warcraft is infamous for this armor trope. However they did recently create one armor piece which was sensible on female models and turned into chest beefcake when placed on males. Don't recall what it was though.
Not just "World of Warcraft" it is very common throughout MMO gaming.

Bruunwald |

Hmph. I personally believe the ratio of chicks in bikini mail to chicks in full plate is not too far from even, maybe even heavy on the "reasonable" side, but that the impact of seeing the former is so overwhelming as to cause the more sensitive to think the opposite is true. True enough to merit entire blogs, I guess.
I strongly disagree. I don't see this as chronic or epidemic as all that.
Dorkness Rising is fun and all. But I know a lot of women and girls who game, and none of us guys would dare mention bikini mail to them in any way other than humorous, and never without full fellowship with them in on the fun.

Dragonsong |

Women fighters?! What kind of topsy turvy world is this?! Forsaking the heavily 'enchanted' and form-fitting priestly and/or sorceress-ly garb of old is a crime against man! Well, I'm just going back to my kingdom where this sort o' thing will never happen!
Bah!
We'll be sure and let the Dwarf Shield Maidens in full plate know you are coming and what you think of them.

The Dread Pirate Neckbeard |

Women fighters?! What kind of topsy turvy world is this?! Forsaking the heavily 'enchanted' and form-fitting priestly and/or sorceress-ly garb of old is a crime against man! Well, I'm just going back to my kingdom where this sort o' thing will never happen!
Bah!
Dahar! You be right!

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IceniQueen wrote:shakes fist Damn you, Hugh Jackman!!! Will I never be free of you?!?!?!!!ProfessorCirno wrote:Freehold DM wrote:IceniQueen wrote:I've found that beefcake is just as easy to find as cheesecake.Here is my belief
if female warrior types (Fighters, Rangers, Paladins, Clerics and yes even barbarians) in chain mail bikini's, then the male's need to be portraid in Chainmail speedo's even if they are a paladin. OH and they all have to be built as if they ripped ala Conan
It's really easy to find big muscular power dudes in fantasy art.
Counterpoint: these pictures are also made for men, not women.
This isn't what most women enjoy. That's what men enjoy. This is what women enjoy. And I'm not seeing much Brad Pit in fantasy art.
No, I do not enjoy Brad pitt, i enjoy This or This Guy
I've never liked Brad Pitt. I like older more mature men
Ok so where does Jackman rate on the Hateraid scale? Above or Below Whedon?

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Freehold DM wrote:Ok so where does Jackman rate on the Hateraid scale? Above or Below Whedon?IceniQueen wrote:shakes fist Damn you, Hugh Jackman!!! Will I never be free of you?!?!?!!!ProfessorCirno wrote:Freehold DM wrote:IceniQueen wrote:I've found that beefcake is just as easy to find as cheesecake.Here is my belief
if female warrior types (Fighters, Rangers, Paladins, Clerics and yes even barbarians) in chain mail bikini's, then the male's need to be portraid in Chainmail speedo's even if they are a paladin. OH and they all have to be built as if they ripped ala Conan
It's really easy to find big muscular power dudes in fantasy art.
Counterpoint: these pictures are also made for men, not women.
This isn't what most women enjoy. That's what men enjoy. This is what women enjoy. And I'm not seeing much Brad Pit in fantasy art.
No, I do not enjoy Brad pitt, i enjoy This or This Guy
I've never liked Brad Pitt. I like older more mature men
Why hate Hugh? He's Good looking, seems to have a personality, and he has that ever so sexy Aussie accent. OH and he is not married to a bimbo name Angelina, not that he is not married, just not to the Bimbo Pitt is. But that's not why I don't like Pitt, I just don't like him, he is not my type :)

Order of the Chauvinist |

Order of the Chauvinist wrote:We'll be sure and let the Dwarf Shield Maidens in full plate know you are coming and what you think of them.Women fighters?! What kind of topsy turvy world is this?! Forsaking the heavily 'enchanted' and form-fitting priestly and/or sorceress-ly garb of old is a crime against man! Well, I'm just going back to my kingdom where this sort o' thing will never happen!
Bah!
Dwarven...women...? Bwahahahahaha!! They don't exist! Dwarves build up their ranks by drinking enough ale and vomitting out another dwarf. I've seen it happen!! 'Went back to m' own 'topside' grog after that... *shudders*

Order of the Chauvinist |

Order of the Chauvinist wrote:Dahar! You be right!Women fighters?! What kind of topsy turvy world is this?! Forsaking the heavily 'enchanted' and form-fitting priestly and/or sorceress-ly garb of old is a crime against man! Well, I'm just going back to my kingdom where this sort o' thing will never happen!
Bah!
*clanks mug* A wise man that looks like he's seen the face of Death and laughed...and he has a beard!
Ha!

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Benicio Del Espada wrote:That sounds like a tourture device and it might chafe really badly.Chainmail bikinis are nothing special. My respect goes to those brave women who wear chainmail THONGS!
12 hours on horseback with a chain up your crack! Now there's a tough woman!
You wear a leather thong under it you sill boys. Even Male Beefcake Barbarians do it this way. I imagine it would hurt them just as bad.

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Benicio Del Espada wrote:Now there's a tough woman!Dahar, of course, she be not quite as tough because of her penalty to physical attribute scores...
But a nice, high result on the bust-size roll!
Dahar...
HA, I had kinda forgot but this post reminded me of one time a GM running a Warhammer game made the female characters all roll a d4 for bust size. A-D for the numbers and the guys had to roll 2d6-1 for... well yeah... the guy that rolled snake eyes was not amused. :)