Greater Trip vs. Viscous Stomp

[Vestax159]

When comparing viscous stomp with greater trip there seems to be a bit of an issue. If someone was to have both of these feats you could essentially trip a guy and get two attacks for free. Limited by AoO's you have however this seems a bit overkill. Perhaps trip is not the same as falling prone?

[Ackattack]

Vestax159 wrote:

When comparing viscous stomp with greater trip there seems to be a bit of an issue. If someone was to have both of these feats you could essentially trip a guy and get two attacks for free. Limited by AoO's you have however this seems a bit overkill. Perhaps trip is not the same as falling prone?

Actually we had a couple of recent discussions about this, such as in this thread I created.

Basically you can look at it two ways: Either you only get one because going prone is the result of getting tripped, or you get get an AoO for the act of successfully tripping and then a second for going prone. I see it as two, as do several of my friends, especially when combined with a feat like Ki Throw. If you throw in Ki Throw, then it becomes Trip, AoO, Ki Throw, AoO on prone target.

That's quite a few feats, so it makes sense to me that you'll get some advantage out of it.

[Aspasia de Malagant]

I can't seem to find vicious stomp anywhere, where is it found?

[Cheapy]

You get two attacks. The prone condition is applied after the trips AoO. You are whacking them on the way down.

[Callarek]

Aspasia de Malagant wrote:

I can't seem to find vicious stomp anywhere, where is it found?

Ultimate Combat, Feats chapter, last page (Page 123)

[Vestax159]

Yah it's from UC basically it's greater trip without the +2 bonus and with no requirements.

That's .. insane. With the right feats you could do something like this.

Disarm + AoO (Break Guard) used for trip + AoO (Greater Trip) + Ki Throw (Binding Grapple for grapple condition) + AoO (Prone Condition)

So with one attack you have disarmed, tripped, and grappled your opponent with two free attacks left over. It just sounded to good to be true is all though it's very monk like.

[Aspasia de Malagant]

Callarek wrote:

Aspasia de Malagant wrote:

I can't seem to find vicious stomp anywhere, where is it found?

Ultimate Combat, Feats chapter, last page (Page 123)

Thanks, the pathfinder srd site apparently is still trying to get the ultimate combat material integrated. :)

[Echo Vining]

Vestax159 wrote:

viscous stomp

This is an awesome typo. I want that feat.

[Klebert L. Hall]

Jonathon Vining wrote:

Vestax159 wrote:

viscous stomp

This is an awesome typo. I want that feat.

You can only use it in the form of an Ooze or a Water Elemental, or something like that.

-Kle.