AoO and Movement


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Do I have to take my Attack of Opportunity due to movement on leaving of the first square that I threaten or can I wait? (And hope that they move though additional squares that I threaten.)
I know that if I had Combat Reflexes that the movement would not generate additional attacks, but I would like to wait until they are leaving square '3' before making my attack.

F = Fighter, Longsword
1-4 Movement generating AoA
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Attacks of Opportunity "...Making an Attack of Opportunity: An attack of opportunity is a single melee attack, and most characters can only make one per round. You don't have to make an attack of opportunity if you don't want to. You make your attack of opportunity at your normal attack bonus, even if you've already attacked in the round ... This feat (Combat Refexes) does not let you make more than one attack for a given opportunity, but if the same opponent provokes two attacks of opportunity from you, you could make two separate attacks of opportunity (since each one represents a different opportunity). Moving out of more than one square threatened by the same opponent in the same round doesn't count as more than one opportunity for that opponent."


Sure thing; moving from 3 to 4 is moving out of a threatened square just as much as moving from 1 to 2 is.


David Thomassen wrote:

Do I have to take my Attack of Opportunity due to movement on leaving of the first square that I threaten or can I wait?

No. You may wait.


Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber

You never *have* to take your AoO and every threatend square an opponent moves out of entitles you to another AoO. Oh, and only executed AoOs count against your limit of AoOs/round.


+1 what they say.


Nullpunkt wrote:
You never *have* to take your AoO and every threatend square an opponent moves out of entitles you to another AoO. Oh, and only executed AoOs count against your limit of AoOs/round.

You only get one AoO no many how many threatened squares are left. They tap dance around you for an entire round but you only get one swing.


I agree that movement can only generate one Attack of Opportunity Concerro. My question was could I delay taking that attack until they try and leave the square of my choosing and not just the first possible sqaure.
Thanks to everybody for their quick replies
(/me is now generating list of questions for my current and next GMs for their House Rules)


David Thomassen wrote:

I agree that movement can only generate one Attack of Opportunity Concerro. My question was could I delay taking that attack until they try and leave the square of my choosing and not just the first possible sqaure.

Thanks to everybody for their quick replies
(/me is now generating list of questions for my current and next GMs for their House Rules)

No you can't. Only the first square provokes.

[quote-prd[Moving out of more than one square threatened by the same opponent in the same round doesn't count as more than one opportunity for that opponent.


It says you can only take one AoO, it doesn't say at which point in the process you must take it.

Look at the whole rule, in context:

Quote:
Combat Reflexes and Additional Attacks of Opportunity: If you have the Combat Reflexes feat, you can add your Dexterity modifier to the number of attacks of opportunity you can make in a round. This feat does not let you make more than one attack for a given opportunity, but if the same opponent provokes two attacks of opportunity from you, you could make two separate attacks of opportunity (since each one represents a different opportunity). Moving out of more than one square threatened by the same opponent in the same round doesn't count as more than one opportunity for that opponent. All these attacks are at your full normal attack bonus.

The line is establishing the distinction between two things that each provoke (say, a move and a ranged attack) and one action which may provoke at multiple points in the process (moving out of multiple threatened squares during the same move).

It's just saying you can't hit the same guy multiple times in the same move. To mean that only the first square provokes the text would have to read "only the first square provokes" rather than "doesn't count as more than one opportunity", that just means it doesn't count as more than one opportunity.


Asphesteros wrote:
It says you can only take one AoO, it doesn't say at which point in the process you must take it.

Actually, it does.

Very strict parsing of the rules, I read it as you must take it immediately.

prd wrote:
Moving out of a threatened square usually provokes attacks of opportunity
prd wrote:
If an attack of opportunity is provoked, immediately resolve the attack of opportunity
prd wrote:
Moving out of more than one square ... doesn't count as more than one opportunity

When an AoO is provoked, you resolve it immediately. The resolution can be that you choose not to attack. Subsequent movement doesn't provoke an AoO.

Choosing not to take an AoO is not the same as not getting an AoO. You got the 1 AoO when the opponent first moved.

That being said, I have no problems if this isn't as strictly interpreted.


Actually, that also jibbes with the use it or lose it of taking an AoO on someone casting full round spells:

full round actions wrote:
You only provoke attacks of opportunity when you begin casting a spell, even though you might continue casting for at least 1 full round.

Ok, Concerro is right - you get one bite at the apple at the first moment they provoke, if you decline, you've declined for their whole action.


Pathfinder Adventure, Rulebook Subscriber

Huh, look at that. I learned something today, Concerro's right, you have to decide whether or not to use the AoO the first time your opponent moves.

At least RAW, I would rule otherwise.

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