Endure Elements


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I was in medium armor in the desert(Qadiran territory), so I cast Endure Elements. The PFS GM said it did not protect me and I had to take off my armor. The spell says it lasts 24 hours and protects you and your equipment from temps ranging from -50 to 140 F with out having to make a fort save. Am I missing something, because this seems like the time you would use this spell is in a desert or tundra. The funny thing is the characters with endurance feat were ok, but somehow my magic wasnt good enough.


Bad Ruling. That is specifically what that spell is for.


Purplefixer wrote:
Bad Ruling. That is specifically what that spell is for.

+1. Endure Elements lets you (surprise) survive natural temperatures, which is exactly what you tried to do.

Endurance should have still made saves, but they get the bonus the feat provides, not just "immunity". This was 100% bad ruling.

You should get him sometime and ask him why he ruled that way, show him Endure Elements, and explain why you think it should work (as calmly as possible). If he can't admit he made a bad ruling, consider asking the other players what they think. Or consider a new group. Or take a level of Ranger for Endurance.

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Thanks for your input. I will talk to him about it, maybe the Mod had something about it, but I can not imagine it saying endure elements will not work. What made it worse was that I died since I had to remove my armor, a master summoner summoned 3 birds on me each with a claw, claw bite and with my newly adjusted AC of 10 flatfooted I was toast. Society games in general have left a bad taste in my mouth. Think I will stick to home games, these VCs get big heads.

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Nimon wrote:


Thanks for your input. I will talk to him about it, maybe the Mod had something about it, but I can not imagine it saying endure elements will not work. What made it worse was that I died since I had to remove my armor, a master summoner summoned 3 birds on me each with a claw, claw bite and with my newly adjusted AC of 10 flatfooted I was toast. Society games in general have left a bad taste in my mouth. Think I will stick to home games, these VCs get big heads.

For what it's worth, not all PFS GMs are power-trippers who would rather kill a PC than read a spell. Also, that GM is likely to be just as bad at a home game as in PFS, so please don't blame PFS for one nincompoop's illiteracy and stubbornness.

In fact, I would report this experience to the local VC and find a new PFS GM if possible, as his behavior is all kinds of unacceptable. If this GM is the local VC, then I suggest doing your best to get the attention a higher-up and get him removed, and maybe even get your character un-killed (I'm not sure if that's possible, but I would hope so).

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