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I'm a bit disappointed about the Tavern that I can spend 5PP to get (PFS Field Guide, p60).
Why? Because it grants a bonus to Day Job rolls for Profession (bartender) and my main PFS character has his ranks in Profession (baker). :(
How important is it really to stick that closely to the specifics of that particular vanity?
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Maybe there should be a Vanity that allows you to acquire any small business, such as a tavern, bakery, tannery, etc, so that you can get something that matches your Profession skill. I should also say that I do not have the Field Guide yet, so I do not know what all the Vanities are yet.
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I'm a bit disappointed about the Tavern that I can spend 5PP to get (PFS Field Guide, p60).
Why? Because it grants a bonus to Day Job rolls for Profession (bartender) and my main PFS character has his ranks in Profession (baker). :(
How important is it really to stick that closely to the specifics of that particular vanity?
I'm not sure I understand the question. How important is it to follow the rules as published? If it says Profession (bartender) then that's what it's for. Put a rank in it next level. Nobody is forcing you to buy a tavern (I hope).
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Would a GM be overstepping his authority by allowing one to purchase a Bakery in place of a tavern for the same 5PP, and annotate it on the chronicle as giving benefit to profession: baker instead of bartender?
In PFS that would indeed be overstepping his authority, but for a home campaign he could.
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Would a GM be overstepping his authority by allowing one to purchase a Bakery in place of a tavern for the same 5PP, and annotate it on the chronicle as giving benefit to profession: baker instead of bartender?In PFS that would indeed be overstepping his authority, but for a home campaign he could.
What now we can't re-skin taverns? But you would be ruining his fun!
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I think something to keep in mind is that this is a "Vanity"
and like other parts of the game it has come out after you made your character.
I wish I could take my level 5 cleric and go back and adjust him to an archetype... but too late.
Start up a new character and you're all set.
Or next level put a point into bartender, as he decided to change careers, and go with the flow.
It's not a game breaker.
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Would a GM be overstepping his authority by allowing one to purchase a Bakery in place of a tavern for the same 5PP, and annotate it on the chronicle as giving benefit to profession: baker instead of bartender?In PFS that would indeed be overstepping his authority, but for a home campaign he could.
I'm sure you've more experience with PFS than I have, but it definately seems to be unreasonable. I never would have figured that to be something so rigid a GM couldn't bend it to accomodate.
Going off on a tangent, but is there a good thread I can look into to get a 'feel' for what a PFS OP GM is given leeway with? I mean, Guide says a GM should tailor an adventure up or down to meet the unexpected success/difficulty with a party.. but when you can't even make the most trivial of changes, how can you?
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Folks, you have to know that there will be more vanities in the future right. Give it some time, and I'm sure that there will be some other publication that will introduce more. Vanities aren't even a month old after all.
And before this goes off on a tangent of why shouldn't a GM have a little leeway on this.
PFS has many GMs. If I was a GM and I got saddled with some other GM's modifications, I feel put upon.
Don't make changes to your games that carry over from one session to the next.
Personally it might be fun (possibly hysterical) to come up with a thread that suggested vanities.
And by the way, there absolutly be a vanity for a bakery. After all Lilth's characters need a place to make her cookies! (I mean, we're do you think they make all those cookies in the first place, some elves' tree?)
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Going off on a tangent, but is there a good thread I can look into to get a 'feel' for what a PFS OP GM is given leeway with? I mean, Guide says a GM should tailor an adventure up or down to meet the unexpected success/difficulty with a party.. but when you can't even make the most trivial of changes, how can you?
Think about it this way.
If the modification is temporary (i.e. only affects the module you are currently running) then its ok. I have my own opinions on exactly what should and should not be messed with in modules, but that's for another thread.
If the modification is permanent (i.e. modifying a vanity, piece of equipment, feat, spell, et. al.) then it is not ok.
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Okay, truth be told, I knew I couldn't really change it to a bakery - I just wanted my woes to be heard, to make me feel better. ;)
I like the idea presented above, though, where I call it a bakery and just never make use of the Day Job bonus. I mean, a bakery can just be a subtype of tavern, thus still being within the rules.
In any case, I have lots of time to think on the issue, as Cledwyn is still just shy of the all-important 16PP for a raise dead (just in case), so it'll be a little while before he's got 5 "spare" PP anyway.
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In any case, I have lots of time to think on the issue, as Cledwyn is still just shy of the all-important 16PP for a raise dead (just in case), so it'll be a little while before he's got 5 "spare" PP anyway.
Cledwyn is high enough level that he needs to start worrying about that raise dead. Muahahahaha!
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In any case, I have lots of time to think on the issue, as Cledwyn is still just shy of the all-important 16PP for a raise dead (just in case), so it'll be a little while before he's got 5 "spare" PP anyway.Cledwyn is high enough level that he needs to start worrying about that raise dead. Muahahahaha!
He's managed to last longer than his fellow fighter Reye, the only character death I've witnessed.
Double scorching ray to the face. Never had a chance. RIP, Reye.
Wait, have you even met Cledwyn yet?
EDIT: You have, I remember now: played him under you in Web of Corruption.
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He's managed to last longer than his fellow fighter Reye, the only character death I've witnessed.
I'm not like Kyle, I don't go around just killing every character I meet when they're a few PA shy of 16.
I've only killed 5 PCs (most in the Grand Melee at Paizocon) and at least half of those were pregens, which we know don't have souls. ;-)
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He's managed to last longer than his fellow fighter Reye, the only character death I've witnessed.I'm not like Kyle, I don't go around just killing every character I meet when they're a few PA shy of 16.
I'm getting curious who this Kyle person is. I'd be happy to meet him... after Cledwyn gets another 1 PP. ;)
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Souls? . . . Hell, they don't even have personalities!I'm not like Kyle, I don't go around just killing every character I meet when they're a few PA shy of 16.
I've only killed 5 PCs (most in the Grand Melee at Paizocon) and at least half of those were pregens, which we know don't have souls. ;-)
Isn't that synonymous?
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I am certainly with the original poster on this, as I have Profession: Brewer and would like to buy a front for my business, but there is no Brewery option and a Tavern requires Bartender.
Furthermore, in the last 2 games, I rolled a natural 20 on Profession: Brewer. The first to get an NPC drunk enough to tell him everything we needed to know. (It was the best ale he'd ever had in his life.) The second time was on my Day Job roll. It got me 50 gold, but that just tells me Thane Dargrin's Dwarven Stout is on its way to being a household name.
Well, rant over. I just saw this thread and had to agree. I hope the either modify the tavern, or add more options.