Can the Knockback Rage Power be made with a weapon?


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Can you use the Knockback Rage Power (bull rush in place of a melee attack) with a weapon? If so, a Reach Weapon?

Quandary wrote:
...The exact definition of what maneuvers are done with weapons isn´t stated very clearly in the rules itself, but basically the assumption seems to be that ´in place of melee attack´ maneuvers are done with weapons.
PRD - Rage Powers - Knockback" wrote:


Knockback (Ex)
Benefit: Once per round, the barbarian can make a bull rush attempt against one target in place of a melee attack. If successful, the target takes damage equal to the barbarian's Strength modifier and is moved back as normal. The barbarian does not need to move with the target if successful. This does not provoke an attack of opportunity.

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Bump! I have searched the forums far and wide and have not been able to find an answer to this question; just this empty thread! I'd like to play a dwarf barbarian with a dwarven longhammer and the Knockback rage power. Does this work?


That seems to me to be the point of knockback. And since the rule seems to be 'when in doubt, find a similar rule' I present this:

pfsrd wrote:

Shield Slam (Combat)

In the right position, your shield can be used to send opponents flying.

Prerequisites: Improved Shield Bash, Shield Proficiency, Two-Weapon Fighting, base attack bonus +6.

Benefit: Any opponents hit by your shield bash are also hit with a free bull rush attack, substituting your attack roll for the combat maneuver check (see Combat). This bull rush does not provoke an attack of opportunity. Opponents who cannot move back due to a wall or other surface are knocked prone after moving the maximum possible distance. You may choose to move with your target if you are able to take a 5-foot step or to spend an action to move this turn.

Since a shield is a weapon, and can be used to make a bull rush, I don't see why you couldn't use a hammer or a spear.

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