Natural Armor ( Race / Draconic Sorcerer / DD )


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Does the natural armor bonus, a draconic bloodline sorcerer gains from his "Dragon Resistances (Ex)" stack with natural armor he acquired from his race? I think it dosen't stack, but I am not completely sure.

I a play 5th sorcerer/4th dragon disciple Kobold ('cause kobolds are cool) .

A kobold has a racial natural armor bonus of +1

His effective level for Bloodline powers is 9, so his Dragon Resistances (Ex) give him a natural armor bonus of +2

The 4 levels in DD give him a natural "armor bonus increase" of +2

Is his natural armor now +4 or +5 ?


If it's an increase, enhancement bonus, etc, it stacks. It looks like the sorcerer bloodline overlaps the kobold one, so it's + 4.


Cheapy is right, the sorcerer bloodline's natural armor bonus overlaps with your racial bonus, so the result is +4.


Zachrid wrote:
Does the natural armor bonus, a draconic bloodline sorcerer gains from his "Dragon Resistances (Ex)" stack with natural armor he acquired from his race? I think it dosen't stack, but I am not completely sure.

The rules are actually very clear:

Dragon Disciple wrote:
Natural Armor Increase (Ex): As his skin thickens, a dragon disciple takes on more and more of his progenitor's physical aspect. At 1st, 4th, and 7th level, a dragon disciple gains an increase to the character's existing natural armor (if any), as indicated on Table: Dragon Disciple. These armor bonuses stack.

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Oh, you're asking about

Draconic Bloodline wrote:
Dragon Resistances (Ex): At 3rd level, you gain resist 5 against your energy type and a +1 natural armor bonus. At 9th level, your energy resistance increases to 10 and natural armor bonus increases to +2. At 15th level, your natural armor bonus increases to +4.

By the rules, no, it doesn't stack. (Notice it doesn't say you get another +1 at 9th, but rather says it's +2 at 9th.) Your DM could rule that it wasn't considered that a PC could have natural AC and give it to you anyway, but that's between you and your DM.


Kinithin wrote:

By the rules, no, it doesn't stack. (Notice it doesn't say you get another +1 at 9th, but rather says it's +2 at 9th.) Your DM could rule that it wasn't considered that a PC could have natural AC and give it to you anyway, but that's between you and your DM.

It doesnt stack, but your natural armor bonus becomes +2 at 9th level for Dragon Resistances.

This would mean that Natural Armor increase would count up from +2 instead of +1, since you take the highest bonus you have (if there are multiple instances of the same bonus).


+4 it is! Thank all of you. :)

Kinithin wrote:
By the rules, no, it doesn't stack. (Notice it doesn't say you get another +1 at 9th, but rather says it's +2 at 9th.) Your DM could rule that it wasn't considered that a PC could have natural AC and give it to you anyway, but that's between you and your DM.

In fact the DM can't rule that.... because I am the DM. That little guy is the "If one of you guys want to be the DM for a while (Pleeeease!), I am going to play this character so we don't need to introduce a new one that mysteriously disappears, when it is my turn to be the DM again."-character. Basically he stands in a corner, is quite good in being cute as hell and does magic missiles, or pushes the chars into the right direction... if they are going to kill themselves.

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