Using wish to dulicate spells with a focus


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Okay, so wish is pretty clear about material components - what about focus components? Anyone ever seen a rule or ruling commenting on whether you can use wish to duplicate a spell with a focus?

I ask because I'm wondering whether using wish to emulate plane shift would allow someone to break into a mage's magnificent mansion. Ordinarily, you'd need a tuning fork attuned to the mansion, which I'd rule was mostly impossible[1], but if someone used a wish to overcome that, should it work?

My opinion is no. Not because wish shouldn't be able to duplicate spells with a focus (it should), but because in this case the focus is something unique. If the focus were something like the focus for mage's magnificent mansion, ("a miniature ivory door, a piece of polished marble, and a silver spoon, each worth 5 gp") I'd say sure, because that's a commonplace thing. A tuning fork attuned to a specific caster's casting of mage's magnificent mansion, in my mind, would fall under the "sorry, you need to provide that component" clause.

But what I'm really looking for here is whether I've missed a rule somewhere. I know how I plan on adjucating it (see above), I just want to know whether I'm breaking RAW or RAI by a developer by doing so.

(I'm aware of the wishcraft article in LoF6, but it really doesn't have much to say on the matter unless I want to consider it as something that would cause a wishwarp. Which I find kind of meh anyways - if I use wishwarps they won't all be the same power, because I find a DC20 Spellcraft check too easy as a blanket DC - if a 40th-level wizard's wish goes bad, I'd expect that DC to be just a little bit higher.)

[1] One might suppose that a high-level caster could create a mansion and then create a tuning fork attuned to that mansion, but that's not what I'm talking about here. Plus, there's no rules for creating a tuning fork, so depending on how that was adjudicated, it might not even be possible.


I would argue that it would work, since Wish is bending reality to better suit the caster.

But that's my opinion, and I know of no rules saying one way or another.

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