Say a rogue tries to pick pocket a Heward's handy haversack or bag of holding? How would this be handled? Are there any rules to cover this?
The thief would be much smarter to simply steal the whole bag. Pick pocketing is (in my mind at least) the art of taking the entire contents out of someone's pocket or a single easily accessible item. extra dimensional spaces are not easily accessible.
I don't know that you can pick pocket a container that you'd have to rummage around in. It's like trying to grab something out of the bottom of a duffle bag without the guy holding it noticing.
Say a rogue tries to pick pocket a Heward's handy haversack or bag of holding? How would this be handled? Are there any rules to cover this?
Well, if they KNEW it was a Haversack or a Bag of Holding, and they knew specifically what they were looking for, then they should be able to simply grab it out of the device, just like using the device. The skill check would be to avoid getting noticed.
Retrieving a specific item from a bag of holding is a move action, unless the bag contains more than an ordinary backpack would hold, in which case retrieving a specific item is a full-round action.
When the wearer reaches into it for a specific item, that item is always on top. Thus, no digging around and fumbling is ever necessary to find what a haversack contains. Retrieving any specific item from a haversack is a move action, but it does not provoke the attacks of opportunity that retrieving a stored item usually does.
The Haversack might require a UMD check, to trick the bag into thinking the rogue is the wearer.
A bag of holding (even a Handy Haversack) is a bag. It's bigger on the inside than you'd normally think, but it's a bag. When someone reaches inside, it's just like reaching inside a normal bag that's holding the same amount of stuff, it's just (I suppose) easier to reach around, because it's not so big on the outside.
I had a player who tried to argue you couldn't take something out of a Handy Haversack unless you knew what you were looking for- because he was missing the fact that regardless, it's a bag. The "auto-find" function just moves the thing you're looking for right on top. If a thief can pickpocket someone holding a huge sack full of tons of stuff, he can do the same to a bag of holding.
Say a rogue tries to pick pocket a Heward's handy haversack or bag of holding? How would this be handled? Are there any rules to cover this?
What is a Heward's handy haversack? I can't find it anywhere.
What is a Heward's handy haversack? I can't find it anywhere.Say a rogue tries to pick pocket a Heward's handy haversack or bag of holding? How would this be handled? Are there any rules to cover this?
That's the old name from WoTC. The new, OGL name is Handy Haversack.
That's the old name from WoTC. The new, OGL name is Handy Haversack.What is a Heward's handy haversack? I can't find it anywhere.Say a rogue tries to pick pocket a Heward's handy haversack or bag of holding? How would this be handled? Are there any rules to cover this?
Ah ha! Thank you.
Heward's? Really? Wow... I'm glad I don't play 3.5...
Amusingly, it would be pretty easy for a thief to steal the most valuable thing out of a handy haversack... because they'd be reaching in, thinking about getting something extremely valuable, and the magic of the bag would accommodate them.
Of course, that would likely be one of those pricy spell components like the figurine made of ivory made of the caster that's worth umpteen GP and is useful for casting Duo-Dimension but is pretty much a glitzy bookmark to anyone else.
Of if the thief is smart, he watches the character put something in.
"Oh look, you just bought that new Wand and put it in your sack...thank you."